Greetings once again, my honored elders! It's been about a year since I've been in need of answers, but like the Nightmare of Solomon, I have returned! This time, pivoting back to more Federation-aligned factions... or at least, factions that were Earth-aligned.
My understanding of what happened to the AEUG is as thus:
Gryps broke them. The AEUG didn't lose, but the Battle of Gryps was at best a pyrrhic victory that they never got the chance to enjoy before the survivors were scattered by Haman's Neo Zeon. The AEUG would then spend the rest of the war mostly on the backfoot, either being unable to regroup in any meaningful capacity or just rejoining the EFSF and sitting out most of the war, save the Argama.
It's after the First Neo Zeon War that gets me questioning, though. It's said that Bright managed to wrangle out Londo Bell from the EFF higher-ups (presumably with backing from the AEUG sponsers) and promptly folded back into the Federation ranks, but not everyone went with him, or was happy that the AEUG was seemingly done. I haven't read Hi-Streamers yet, buy from what I've heard, EGUM in there is little more than a front for Newborn Neo Zeon set up by Char, and I think it was the same for Nouveau, from what I remember (they might be the same thing?).
But, I have read parts of F90FF, enough to know that by the UC 110s, EGUM was on its last legs and was seemingly a legitimate AEUG remnant fighting for its dead dream, led by an AEUG veteran (who doesn't, of course, have a wiki page, but is called Commander Trovaldyo), though they're referred to as "zealous Char Deikun supporters" and "former AEUG terrorists."
So, my questions to you, my honored elders, is thus:
What happened to the AEUG remnants immediatly after the First Neo Zeon War? How many refused to join the Federation? Are EGUM and Nouveau the same thing? And what was their part to play in Hi-Streamers?
EGUM, Nouveau, and AEUG Hardliners after the First Neo Zeon War
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Re: EGUM, Nouveau, and AEUG Hardliners after the First Neo Zeon War
Nah, the AEUG may have taken heavy losses relative to the organization's small size fighting the much larger and better-equipped Titans but their win was anything but phyrric. They finished the war in de facto control of the Earth Federation.Changa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:54 pm Gryps broke them. The AEUG didn't lose, but the Battle of Gryps was at best a pyrrhic victory that they never got the chance to enjoy before the survivors were scattered by Haman's Neo Zeon. The AEUG would then spend the rest of the war mostly on the backfoot, either being unable to regroup in any meaningful capacity or just rejoining the EFSF and sitting out most of the war, save the Argama.
When all is said and done, the main reason the AEUG broke up and was gradually reintegrated into the Earth Federation Forces was because its main organizational objective was achieved. The AEUG was, in simplistic terms, founded to resist the Titans. The Gryps conflict ended with the Titans not just defeated and decimated but dissolved and branded as war criminals and terrorists. The repressive policies that gave rise to the Titans were, for at least a brief time, withdrawn. For many in the AEUG's ranks it was simply "Mission Accomplished" and they rejoined the Earth Federation Forces. Without Brex and Casval holding things together on the ideological side, the group simply broke up because their fight was over.
The AEUG wasn't a monolithic organization, however, so while a lot of the group was EFF soldiers who were rebelling against the Titans and the EF's repressive anti-colony policies there were colonists and ex-Zeon types mixed in there too who had other issues with the Federation government that went beyond just "F the Titans". Those folks who still had an axe to grind with the EF were the ones who formed the so-called "radical" faction of the AEUG that went on to become EGUM/Nouveau. That they ended up aligned with Neo Zeon isn't particularly surprising, since a fair number of them were likely ex-Zeon to begin with.
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Missed this bit at the end.
In short, the AEUG remnants who hadn't already dispersed and rejoined the Earth Federation Forces by the time the First Neo Zeon War ended in UC 0089 would be reorganized and formally integrated into the Earth Federation Space Forces as Londo Bell in UC 0090.
Because the AEUG was a volunteer force made up of basically anyone who wanted to oppose the Titans and the oppressive anti-spacenoid policies being put into place by the Earth Federation at the time, some members of the AEUG with extreme anti-Federation views or those loyal to Char after the Dakar speech opted to oppose the AEUG's integration into the EFSF. Some simply dissolved their forces. Some banded together to form EGUM and became anti-Earth Federation terrorists by UC 0093. They supported Char's Neo Zeon in Hi-Streamer out of loyalty to Char himself, but in later periods refused to align themselves with Zabi loyalist Zeon forces. There seems to have some kind of organizational schism at some point as "EGUM" and "Nouveau EGUM" are both active in UC 0116.
As to "how many"... we don't know. Gundam tends to avoid giving exact numbers for a lot of things to avoid writing itself into a corner with the many, many side stories and whatnot that it likes to do. In Hi-Streamer they were a very small group that helped Char escape the Federation's forces with just 3-4 mobile suits. They become more of a problem in the UC 0110s.
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Re: EGUM, Nouveau, and AEUG Hardliners after the First Neo Zeon War
Given how it's a different adaptation of the story (Both by Tomino) does EGUM appear in the Beltrochika's Children Manga?