How do the explosive bolts on the Hyaku Shiki Kai Full Armor work?

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How do the explosive bolts on the Hyaku Shiki Kai Full Armor work?

How exactly do the explosive bolts -- the swivel gauntlet thing-y on the Hyaku Shiki Kai Full Armor's forearms -- work? Are they actual explosives, or do they work more like pile drivers. Is there any explanation from manuals or other books? I am also wonder about the laser guns mounted to the Hyaku Shiki Kai's head.
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It's MSV... it doesn't have to make sense or be properly explained. :P

The explanation given is that it's basically an ineffectual shotgun-type weapon that fires explosive buckshot that doesn't have enough stopping power to actually hurt an enemy MS other than with a lucky hit on joints or cameras.

The name is awfully unfortunate, "explosive bolt" is the common name for a pyrotechnic fastener... which are used to affix and quickly purge gear like armor segments and optional weapons.
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Re: How do the explosive bolts on the Hyaku Shiki Kai Full Armor work?

Seto Kaiba wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:54 am It's MSV... it doesn't have to make sense or be properly explained. :P

The explanation given is that it's basically an ineffectual shotgun-type weapon that fires explosive buckshot that doesn't have enough stopping power to actually hurt an enemy MS other than with a lucky hit on joints or cameras.

The name is awfully unfortunate, "explosive bolt" is the common name for a pyrotechnic fastener... which are used to affix and quickly purge gear like armor segments and optional weapons.
Hey, thanks for the answer. And didn't the Alex use explosive bolts to discard its CHOBAM armor?
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Re: How do the explosive bolts on the Hyaku Shiki Kai Full Armor work?

Looking at the battle it seems as though the Chobham Armor is heavily damaged from taking the brunt of the mines charges from the Kampfer (it's never made clear what exactly the mines would have been used for, they may have been an added weapon to the Alex, or they may have been released in space like in Gundam ZZ), then it seems the thrusters blow off the remaining armor, leaving the Alex (relatively) intact.
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Re: How do the explosive bolts on the Hyaku Shiki Kai Full Armor work?

We actually have an idea what a buckshot-type munitions would do in the UC-timeline here, courtesy of the Zeta movies:
https://youtu.be/mhVDktiIZGo?t=73
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False Prophet wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:12 am Hey, thanks for the answer. And didn't the Alex use explosive bolts to discard its CHOBAM armor?
It's not explicitly stated, but the way the armor separates after the Kampfer's chain mine goes off definitely has the look of jettisoning via pyrotechnic fasteners. The parts blow outwards instead of just falling down.

Mafty wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:44 am Looking at the battle it seems as though the Chobham Armor is heavily damaged from taking the brunt of the mines charges from the Kampfer (it's never made clear what exactly the mines would have been used for, they may have been an added weapon to the Alex, or they may have been released in space like in Gundam ZZ), then it seems the thrusters blow off the remaining armor, leaving the Alex (relatively) intact.
The MG Kampfer manual indicates the chain mine was used in the recommended/intended manner when the Kampfer used it against the ALEX in the OVA. It's meant to wrap around/stick to an enemy vehicle and detonate like that.

Mind you, the "Chobham armor" itself is actually laced with explosives. The name is misleading, as the technology used isn't anything we'd recognize as modern "Chobham armor" technology... it's a contrived acronym "Ceramics Hybrid Outer-shelled Blow-up Act-on Materials". In practice, it's actually a luna titanium-based explosive reactive armor. The blast was probably enough to trigger the ERA, meaning the whole suit armor package would have been jettisoned anyway with the ERA's explosive layer spent.

azrael wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:09 pm We actually have an idea what a buckshot-type munitions would do in the UC-timeline here, courtesy of the Zeta movies:
https://youtu.be/mhVDktiIZGo?t=73
Yeah, there's another example in Gundam 0080. The Kampfer's got a shotgun that's marginally more effective than the shot munitions from that scene... but only because the Kampfer's 197mm shotgun is firing luna titanium shot at comparatively soft targets. It's shown destroying a civilian-use MS, a self-propelled missile launcher, and scoring a disabling hit on a RX-77D Guncannon production type. When used against the ALEX, all it can do is scuff up the reactive armor's paint, so the pilot abandons it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ycl8Q5ISTUs ... tVZ20aZHer
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Seto Kaiba wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:54 am It's MSV... it doesn't have to make sense or be properly explained. :P

The explanation given is that it's basically an ineffectual shotgun-type weapon that fires explosive buckshot that doesn't have enough stopping power to actually hurt an enemy MS other than with a lucky hit on joints or cameras.

The name is awfully unfortunate, "explosive bolt" is the common name for a pyrotechnic fastener... which are used to affix and quickly purge gear like armor segments and optional weapons.
Interesting, when they put the FA Hyaku Shiki Kai in SRW they treated the explosive bolts as a knuckle type weapon with an explosive finish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztBLgcG4HP4&t=40s
Similar attack in GBO2 as I recall.
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Underrated GM Custom wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:11 am
Seto Kaiba wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:54 am It's MSV... it doesn't have to make sense or be properly explained. :P

The explanation given is that it's basically an ineffectual shotgun-type weapon that fires explosive buckshot that doesn't have enough stopping power to actually hurt an enemy MS other than with a lucky hit on joints or cameras.

The name is awfully unfortunate, "explosive bolt" is the common name for a pyrotechnic fastener... which are used to affix and quickly purge gear like armor segments and optional weapons.
Interesting, when they put the FA Hyaku Shiki Kai in SRW they treated the explosive bolts as a knuckle type weapon with an explosive finish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztBLgcG4HP4&t=40s
Similar attack in GBO2 as I recall.
In G Generation games and the old SDGO game it was an electric shock.
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