The Official Code Geass Anime Thread

AU_Gundam MK II · Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:06 pm

Suzaku looks cool. What I wonder is if he has become a person of a certian rank.

AmuroNT1 · Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:36 pm

According to the R2 info, Suzaku is a Knight of the Round - one of the Emperor's elite cadre of bodyguards. They've hinted that as part of this group, Suzaku will be going around and helping subjugate new Areas. They've also intimated that the other Knights will be characters, and attractive ones to boot (here's hoping there's at least one female Knight, just to break the monotony).

For the curious, the Emperor's primary bodyguard is called the Knight of One. This is the position Jeremiah was originally going for, but not for the selfish reasons one might expect. According to the Picture Dramas, a young Jeremiah's first assignment was guard duty on the Aries Palace the night Marianne was assassinated, and he's always carried her death (as well as the supposed deaths of her children in Japan) as a personal failure. As such, he wants to redeem himself by protecting someone even more important - IE the Emperor. Of course, the Picture Drama where we learn all this is set just before the Orange Incident...

mechalord · Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:15 pm

AmuroNT1 wrote:Mechalord: Not to put words in Chris' mouth, but the issue isn't just comparing Geass to another work, it's the fact that your comparisons are badly forced, and yet you insist they're germane. It's like how people feel compelled to call Geass "Death Note with Robots", when the only real commonality is the presence of a manipulative antihero protagonist. Everything else, even attempts to "prove" that Lelouch is just like Light Yagami, are typically laughable.

Honestly, I think the parallel/irony with the Arthurian KMF names deals more with their pilots than their factions. Lancelot was the bravest of the knights, but in Geass the Lancelot is piloted by someone whose bravery is a front for suicidal intentions. Gawain was revered as one of Arthur's most pious men, and yet the robotic namesake is piloted by a somewhat dark chessmaster type. Of course, maybe they just chose the names for sounding good. Don't wanna get too pompous now. ^_^;;

And I'm pretty dang sure there won't be a Season 3 unless the show is insanely popular. In many interviews, the staff has said that they always intended it to be a 4-coul (52 episodes) series, and only got half that out of Sunrise in the first place due to Taniguchi being an "uncertain" director. They always intended to do a sequel, no matter what form it had to take, be it movie, OVA, or second season. They actually said that if it all failed and they had to end the show at 25 or so, they would have ended up doing a non-ending.

Guess I'm the only one who likes Suzaku's new outfit then. Oh well. That's just how it went with the Orb uniforms too. But yeah, the Goldalot DOES seem to be in Waltfeld's personal colors.

Death Note was an international smash hit before Code Geass was released. Code Geass does share certain themes and superficial elements with Death Note. The success of Death Note could have led the creators of Code Geass into borrowing some elements from Death Note. Code Geass isn't Death Note with robots but you can't deny that Deah Note could have had some influence.

It's a common trend in television and entertainment. One movie company comes out with the Matrix and all the others start producing similar films to capitalize on the trend and a lot of movie makers start using bullet time.

ANyhow, I pointed out Dune because I saw similarities between Paul and Lelouche. I'm not saying the show is completely based on Dune, I just saying that the main character of CG is similar to the main character in Dune and has a similar "family" situation. Maybe the writers are fans of the books and looked to them for inspiration when creating Lelouche's situation.

Maybe the writers were all in a meeting. One of them said he was thinking of having the story set in a world ruled by an Empire and that the hero would be a banished noble of this empire desperate for some payback. Then some other writer was like. . ."You guys read Dune right? Paul ends up on Arrakis and his family gets betrayed. All this stuff happens. So forth and so forth." Other guy replies, "yeah. . . maybe we can take some stuff from there. It works. Why not? We just need to adapt it to a more modern setting in an alternate universe Japan and incorporate some other stuff to distinguish it. Let's write it down. More brainstorming."

AmuroNT1 · Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:24 pm

...Stop. Please, just stop. You REALLY seem to have missed the point here, and your continued insistence that Geass has elements intentionally inspired by Dune rather than coincidental, superficial similarities is just becoming really annoying.

And as I said, the ONLY real comparable element with Death Note is the manipulative antihero; DN is about the cat-and-mouse game between two intellects, one with a supernatural advantage and the other with better real-world resources. Geass contains none of that except the supernatural advantage, and even then comparing the Death Note to Lelouch's Geass is flawed at best.

Turinu · Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:56 am

What I think you're really trying to say is... many animes have similarities to many other things, and Code Geass is no exception to that rule. It may be a coincidence, it may not, but constantly pushing what you believe at others and continuously fortifying your beliefs when you've already proven your point, is a tad excessive and a bit unnecessary.

Mwulf · Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:19 am

Ulgh. This thread is going to get locked soon. I can feel it.

mechalord · Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:39 pm

Shori wrote:What I think you're really trying to say is... many animes have similarities to many other things, and Code Geass is no exception to that rule. It may be a coincidence, it may not, but constantly pushing what you believe at others and continuously fortifying your beliefs when you've already proven your point, is a tad excessive and a bit unnecessary.

I was just trying to explain myself. My intent was not to be an ass or to force what I believe at others. A bit of a misunderstanding. I apologize.

AmuroNT1 · Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:48 am

Pictures from Newtype!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... lo2bk0.jpg
Zero, now confirmed to be Lelouch. I think it's sorta cool that the costume can convert into a more "casual" one.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... erogl4.jpg
Rolo, who has been confirmed to be hanging with Lelouch and apparently they get along swimmingly.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... zakuR2.png
Suzaku, now confirmed to be the Knight of Seven (IE Knight of the Round # 7 of 12). As Celiss pointed out, if he's #7, you've gotta wonder about the six above him...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... 2/CCR2.png
C.C.~! Also notice the Guren to her side; the right arm has been replaced with the Radiation Wave arm from its precursor, which apparently isn't as efficient and can't use the R-Wave as frequently as the regular one.

EDIT: The gold Lancelot-lookalike is named "Vincent"; no word on the pilot. But it IS the Mass Production Lancelot, apparently.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... lotmx7.jpg

Dark Duel · Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:22 am

DUDE!!!!
I am LOVING what Lelouch and C.C. are wearing in these pics.
Vincent, huh? A MP-version Lancelot? Could be interesting.

AmuroNT1 · Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:28 am

Clearer pic of the R2 Zero costume, BTW:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... ZeroR2.jpg

Mwulf · Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:18 am

Eh... I'd rather see a clear pic of the millay x kallen pic from the spoilers thread.

Darth_Blade · Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:59 pm

Zero, now confirmed to be Lelouch.

Um, no. Confirmed to be Rollo or whatever is the correct way to spell his name in English.

Dark Duel · Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:56 pm

Mwulf wrote:Eh... I'd rather see a clear pic of the millay x kallen pic from the spoilers thread.

I totally agree...that pic was a good one

Darth_Blade wrote:
Zero, now confirmed to be Lelouch.
Um, no. Confirmed to be Rollo or whatever is the correct way to spell his name in English.

Uh-huh. Yeah, right. Did you even happen to look at the pic?
I mean, I realize it's blurry, but last I checked, Rollo didn't have black hair. And the person in Zero's costume clearly has black hair, which leaves only Lelouch.

*a thought occurs*
Unless...Nah, nevermind.

AmuroNT1 · Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:27 pm

Milly/Kallen pic: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/279/bo ... bi2sm5.jpg

And trust me, that's Lelouch in the Zero costume, not Rollo. As if the scans weren't enough, remember that no less than two pieces of upcoming merchandise for R2, the Petit Prop Plus figures and the cellphone straps, specifically say or show that he's Zero.

wielder · Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:02 pm

I'm sure Lelouch is going to be Zero in the show, which is why he's on the merchandise and other scans...but I'm not really sure that the "real" Lelouch is going to be the "real" Zero right at the beginning of the new series, if you want to put it that way...unless previous spoilers were just teasing us for no real reason, there may still be something more to this. Just speculating a bit.

AmuroNT1 · Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:44 am

Current popular theory: Lelouch starts off R2 in some sort of dream-state, created by V.V. in which he lives in peace and happiness. Rollo is V.V.'s projection of himself into the dream in order to maintain the status quo and keep Lulu out of the Emperor's hair.

Animage February info link, translations by Celiss.

Lelouch: A young man studying in Ashford Academy, Area 11. Although an upright student and the vice-president of the Student Council, he participates in illegal chess bets.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... uchaq4.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... artvt1.jpg

Zero: The devil who involved the people of Area 11 in his attempt to rebel against the Britannian empire. Will he sound the drums to the start of another rebellion? Who is he, really!?
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... eroqp6.jpg

C.C.: A mysterious girl who governs the power of the Geass. In the first episode, it appears that she is working with the Black Knights.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... /ccct5.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... rt2et2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... artru5.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... rt3se8.jpg

Suzaku: A member of the Knights of the Round, the knights under the Britannian Emperor's direct command. (Knight of Seven) With his beloved mech Lancelot, he busies himself around the world.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... akubb6.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... artct7.jpg

Rollo: Lelouch's younger brother. Studies in Ashford Academy along with his older brother. A young man whose main characteristic trait is his kindly face.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... llokz7.jpg

PS: "Rollo" is confirmed as the official spelling in Animage.

wielder · Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:18 pm

AmuroNT1 wrote:Current popular theory: Lelouch starts off R2 in some sort of dream-state, created by V.V. in which he lives in peace and happiness. Rollo is V.V.'s projection of himself into the dream in order to maintain the status quo and keep Lulu out of the Emperor's hair.

That theory actually sounds somewhat plausible, you know...though maybe it's not exactly a "dream" as much as a selective illusion (say, "Rollo" is just a projection at heart, but maybe he still does have a physical presence, whether it's V.V. or someone else entirely, not just something in Lelouch's head). We'll see.

Btw, thanks for the other information...C.C.'s description is a bit curious though...it "appears" that she's "working with the Black Knights" in the "first episode"...but then what?

Maybe, as long as we're talking about illusions and other deceptions, someone could be masquerading as C.C. OR she could just be pretending to help the Black Knights for a while, but won't hesitate to abandon them if necessary (she has no link to them other than Lelouch, anyway...).

Mwulf · Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:05 pm

Taniguchi already did the dreamworld route... he copies themes a lot, but i've yet to see duplicate plot elements.

Dark Duel · Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:05 am

AmuroNT1 wrote:Pictures from Newtype!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... lo2bk0.jpg
Zero, now confirmed to be Lelouch. I think it's sorta cool that the costume can convert into a more "casual" one.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... erogl4.jpg
Rolo, who has been confirmed to be hanging with Lelouch and apparently they get along swimmingly.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... zakuR2.png
Suzaku, now confirmed to be the Knight of Seven (IE Knight of the Round # 7 of 12). As Celiss pointed out, if he's #7, you've gotta wonder about the six above him...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... 2/CCR2.jpg
C.C.~! Also notice the Guren to her side; the right arm has been replaced with the Radiation Wave arm from its precursor, which apparently isn't as efficient and can't use the R-Wave as frequently as the regular one.

EDIT: The gold Lancelot-lookalike is named "Vincent"; no word on the pilot. But it IS the Mass Production Lancelot, apparently.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/ ... lotmx7.jpg

Seems these pics're down. I forgot to save them, so could you please reupload?
Thanks.

AmuroNT1 · Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:49 am

The C.C. one is the only one that didn't work properly, and I got that fixed.