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Post by felip3cruz » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:18 pm

I honestly thought that everyone in Admoss were going to die when Atra said she was staying at Tekkadan. Anyway... I'm pretty sure that McGillis was involved somehow in Orga's death, otherwise there'll be no reason to a Barbatos Lupus Rex VS Bael final showdown.

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Post by yazi88 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:52 pm

McGillis has done things directly rather than relying on 3rd party goons to do his work when it comes to killing in the show so far, although given his actions with Mika earlier it is a possibility.

If anything it was probably orchestrated by Nobliss who has hired goons to kill Kudelia in the Dort Colonies, and given he's working for Rustal now it seems highly likely. Plus he knows that Tekkadan might visit Admoss company.

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Post by Kuruni » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:27 pm

One thing, it seem people forget that those assasins don't specifically aim for Orga. Chad got shoted first, and Orga might even get to cover if he doesn't shield Ride. It's likely that they tried to kill everyone there.
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Post by AmuroNT1 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:22 am

Which is why I said "running around with their Tekkadan jackets when public opinion has been turned against Tekkadan is kinda dumb". :P
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Post by SNT1 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:57 am

One thing that may point out that McGillis may not be behind this is the timing;

When Macky starts to get real annoyed by Orga and Mika's insistance that he follow Orga, he was trapped in the same Tekkadan base that has had their communications cut off. He did step out for "personal business" but that was before said annoyances took place. He did finally break through with Bael but I just don't buy that he was able to make the arrangements for the hit in the cockpit when he's focused on Rustal's forces at the time.

Plus, Macky has been said to be "incredibly lucky." Maybe Orga's death, perhaps not of his doing, is one 'lucky' break McGillis needed to get Mika to really go all out against Gjallarhorn?

As for the final battles, one minor thing: (I can't find the link) there's a commercial of gunpla for Bael and Barbatos and they seem to be posed fighting alongside each other. Not much to go by, but I don't see them fighting in the final 2 episodes. Besides, Fareed-Bauduin III is next episode and I don't see McGillis having the skill or stamina to both win in the penultimate episode here AND give Mika a good fight in the final. Two episodes is not much time.
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Post by domino » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:03 am

Entirely possible that McGillis did more than just switch clothes when he left the base to "check on something". He may have been predicting they'd seek assistance from Admoss at some point. That's basically what he did to manipulate Tekkadan and other forces in season 1

Otherwise, McGillis may have sent them a signal from within the Bael Gundam.

I find it hard to believe that Rustal will be disposed of fast enough for Bael and Barbatos to have a showdown. Two episodes may work but depending on the writing - we may get lucky enough to have a OVA/movie.

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Post by SonicSP » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:17 pm

Speaking of McGillis, how did he get back into Tekkadan's base from that cliff anyways?

I don't think Gjallahorn just let him walked in.........

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Post by Amion » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:56 pm

Maybe Iok Kujan was on watch over that particular cliff...
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Post by MarshalBraginsky » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:03 pm

Having looked up a bit of info on Katejina Loos and how she survived the whole war against Zanscare Empire but reduced to being a blind woman, do you guys think that IdIok might up having a similar fate to her?

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Post by AmuroNT1 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:18 pm

The whole thing with Kathejina was that Tomino himself felt that just killing her off at the end of the show wasn't a severe enough punishment for all the horrible things did. Iok is an idiot and he's done some bad things, but the scale doesn't really compare.
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Post by sdwoodchuck » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:52 pm

Yeah, Iok is just a pampered brat who has been told "you're great" for so long that he believes it, and can't seem to cut it under real authority or in real combat. Katejina was vindictive, manipulative, and cruel. Not really comparable.

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Post by MarshalBraginsky » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:24 am

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The whole thing with Kathejina was that Tomino himself felt that just killing her off at the end of the show wasn't a severe enough punishment for all the horrible things did. Iok is an idiot and he's done some bad things, but the scale doesn't really compare.
Not to mention that the extremely high death count in Victory Gundam was due to Tomino himself suffering from depression at that time. I don't think IdIok can be compared to even the Seirans from GSD for that matter, as the moron is on a whole new level of idiot. (Yes, Yuuna getting squashed by a falling GOUF was an ignominious death worth for a fool) However, G-Tekketsu could come close to breaking the record for the most amount of deaths, from the deposed ex-CGS staff to Crank, Masahiro, Biscuit and his older brother, Carta, Lafter, Naze and his wife, Fumitan, Shino, to Orga. Who else am I missing?

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Post by SonicSP » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:51 am

You're missing Aston.

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Post by The Green Flame » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:15 pm

Also Isurugi and Snake Man Gusion pilot. And it still wouldn't be enough to hit Victory :V

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Post by Dark Duel » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:10 pm

As long as we're including named characters in general, I suppose there's also that Mars Branch dirtbag from S1 and the Stenja brothers, and in S2 there's also Galan Mossa and that other guy, Radish or whatever - the creepy traitor from the Arbrau arc. Oh, and that one creepy dude with the man-baby face who hired the Dawn Horizon Corps way back at the beginning of the series, I'd totally forgotten about him.

Of course, not all that broken up about most of those, as they were for the most part villains and/or fairly uninteresting characters.
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Post by SNT1 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:13 pm

As many as the deaths are in IBO, there's still an abnormally large cast of named characters to begin with. For example, Gundam 00 S1 had 3named character deaths towards the end (on the protagonist side) but seemed more impactful because of how small a crew Celestial Being was.
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Post by Kuruni » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:38 pm

I has to be more impactful. I mean, when you have someone shot at Lenin's frozen corpse in Mosc...Moon, any strong comrade will feel rage :mrgreen: .
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Post by yazi88 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:02 am

Well....
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Nobliss was the one who ordered the hit on Orga, it wasn't a surprise given how much of a backstabber and shady guy he was, but surprisingly enough, McGillis died too, gravely injured and outside the Bael, but not before wrecking a lot of havok on Rustal's fleet, Kimaris Vidar got damaged a lot too but Gaelio might turn things around against Rustal, or maybe not... Sadly Hush died too, but given the deaths around the end of the show its to be expected.

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Post by Loop_Stratos » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:36 am

yazi88 wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:02 am
Well....
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Nobliss was the one who ordered the hit on Orga, it wasn't a surprise given how much of a backstabber and shady guy he was, but surprisingly enough, McGillis died too, gravely injured and outside the Bael, but not before wrecking a lot of havok on Rustal's fleet, Kimaris Vidar got damaged a lot too but Gaelio might turn things around against Rustal, or maybe not... Sadly Hush died too, but given the deaths around the end of the show its to be expected.
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