excalibur2008 wrote:Which is funny seeing as the Titans probably killed way less people then the Zeon. As I don't recall the Titans going around nuking colonies to the point there is a rather large debris belt in Earth orbit.
I think the main issue here is that at the time Zeon was basically a foregin nation attacking them, to which the EF reacted (though very late) and condemned their actions. On the other hand, the Titans, and by extent the EF, was the government itself, which was meant to protect them, killing them and giving a free pass to those responsible, and as time passed even granted them more power.
As for the shoal zone, I should remind you that the battle of Side 5 involved both sides nuking the hell out of each other, and IIRC, the more direct responsible for the destruction of the colonies are the EF which began using the colonies as shields after they began losing the battle and their improvised combined fleet fell further into disarray.
excalibur2008 wrote:Plus even when the EF is being all conniving in Gundam Unicorn, they were still trying to the death total from the Colony Lazer down as opposed to Zeon and their Colony drops.
In Gundam Unicorn Neo Zeon doesn't attempt any colony drop. In fact during Loni's rampage at Torrington, her mentor is telling them that attacking the city is not part of their plan. I should also point out that during the first episode most of the casualties inside Industrial 7 can be directly blamed on the EF that began fighting Marida inside the colony.
Regarding the other colony drops, we know that Operation Biriths was targeted at Jaburo, not Sydney, Operation Stardust was aimed at the north american farmlands which would limit the development of Earth by reducing their foodstocks. Ironically, it's Char's asteroid drops that seemed aimed directly at annihilating as much people as possible, though with the twist that it was meant to force all the population on Earth to immigrate to space.
In another thread I also pointed out how during the Dublin colony drop it looked like Zeon was trying to make a controlled drop that minimized the damage to the planet (judging by the angle the colony fell and how it remained largely in one piece), while some EF politicians fleeing from the surrounding areas were upset that the AEUG wouldn't surrender to Haman, but also glad that the colony drop would reduce the amount of mouths they have to feed.
Aside from the earliest conflicts of the One Year War with the nuking and gassing, I don't recall Zeon really doing much against other colonies as much as they did against Earth.
Only because they were stopped from nuking Side 6. And no considering Char flat out said Zeon would destroy Side 6 if it tried to help the Federation I don't think you can write off as just crazy renegades
I'm not sure where that quote comes from, but the background information pretty much confirms that Side 6 was the ally of the Principality of Zeon, helping them smuggle the materials that the EF prohibited Side 3 from getting after imposing economic sanctions on them. It isn't until late during the OYW when Zeon began losing ground that Side 6 began playing for both sides and eventually stick with the EF.
I think the Titans gassing a colony for no other reason than citizens holding a peaceful protest against them, and attempting to do so with a couple others throughout Zeta (one of which fails and the other succeeds) while the Federation itself, despite supposedly being in charge of them, not only not punishes them for such actions, but actually handing over control of the entire Federation to the Titans' leader would make a lot of Spacenoids think (and would clearly make the rounds via the AEUG). And that's on top of the Titans attempting to drop a colony on Von Braun and creating the Gryps 2 Colony Laser that anyone could see would be used to simply blow away anyone who dared stand against them.
And this would be different from what Zeon would do if they ever got power how exactly?
I mean at least the Titans are honest about it instead of [email protected]
#ting about caring about everyone except Side 3.
Heck The Republic of Zeon was siding with the Titans, so what does that say about them?
The republic of Zeon has always been said to just be a puppet government of the EF, so no surprises on the Titans getting them involved and adding them to their forces. As for Zeon, the Perfect Victory ending from Gihren's Greed shows Zeon sending the population of Earth to space, which fits with the original idea of Zeon wanting all of mankind to leave Earth, rather than simply killing them as you would imply:
There you go: if Zeon had won, even many EF soldiers get a better ending.