yazi88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:03 am
Is there any new info about the Macross Elysion or what class it is? Its been a long time since I've heard about its class. Wasn't it related to the Macross Quarter class from Frontier but over twice the size? Its not as powerful as the New Macross class right?
To give you an idea of just how badly
Macross Delta shortchanged mecha fans... there is virtually no info on the
Macross Elysion outside of a vague statement that its height in Storming Attacker mode is approximately the same as the Burj Khalifa in Dubai (828m). That's it. That's literally ALL WE HAVE... and this is the ship that's literally the backdrop for half the series and a good chunk of the movie.
False Prophet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:32 am
Hmm... After the Space War I, how far could humanity gaze into the star?
Not much farther than we can now.
One of the many ways that
Macross differs from your standard popular science fiction settings is that there aren't any of those exotic, seemingly magical generic sensor systems that can do whatever the plot demands like detect and identify individual life forms on ships hundreds of thousands of kilometers away or identify planets at distances of dozens of light years.
Virtually all of the sensor technology in
Macross's universe is real world technology... long-range detection systems use RADAR and LIDAR, and are supplemented at shorter ranges with high-powered camera systems and infrared detectors. They also have more exotic, but still quite real, sensor technologies like gravitational wave detectors. The only exotic sensor technology in the setting is cross-dimensional RADAR, AKA fold wave RADAR. Functionally, it works just like RADAR only it's longer-ranged and FTL.
Long-range telescopes like the Kepler space observatory can identify probable systems in close proximity to our own, but even in
Macross the only way to actually know anything about the planets there and identify if a planet is habitable is to go there and survey it. This is, of course, why emigrant fleets are outfitted to spend a long time wandering the stars in search of a habitable planet.
False Prophet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:32 am
Did they send the emigration fleets with no specific habitable system in mind, or did they have a generally idea about where the possibility was highest?
For the most part. emigrant fleets were sent out without even a general idea of a destination. The goal was for them to essentially wander the stars in search of planets capable of supporting human life, which is why they're mostly built to be nice places to live.
They were divided into two types of fleet:
- Short-Distance Emigrant Fleets composed of repurposed Zentradi Army warships were launched to explore the volume of space within ~100ly of Earth in search of habitable worlds.
- Long-Distance Emigrant Fleets centered on purpose-built long-duration colony ships were sent out to discover habitable planets outside that 100ly radius.
Depending on the courses their civilian and military leaders set, most fleets were expected to be exploring the galaxy for a decade or so before finding a habitable planet. Some didn't travel that far but searched wide areas of the galaxy, like
Macross-5. Others kept to a fairly straight line and ended up all the way across the galaxy like
Megaroad-04.
False Prophet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:32 am
Still haven't got around to watch the original Macross yet, so can I ask this question: Why did NUNS started the colonization program so quickly after the war?
The New UN Government's decision to initiate a program of interstellar space colonization so soon after the First Space War was motivated mainly by the knowledge that humanity had only avoided extinction in that war by the narrowest margin imaginable. Barely 1 million humans had survived, all of whom were either sheltered in Grand Cannon systems 6 kilometers underground or in out in space aboard starships and space colonies. Earth's surface was totally obliterated by the Zentradi Army's Boddole Zer main fleet. Massed bombardment by nearly 5 million Zentradi Army warships left the planet's surface a sterile desert generally incapable of supporting life.
The existential threat posed by the Zentradi Army exceeded even the most pessimistic assessments by the Earth UN Government and UN Forces from before the war. They had been preparing to face down an enemy fleet of a few hundred to a few thousand ships tops... not millions. The New UN Government knew only too well that that "victory" was mostly down to getting stupidly lucky, and that they had no hope of victory over a force that large should there be anything like a level playing field. With over 3 million of the Boddole Zer main fleet's 4,795,122 ship fleet still at large after retreating, and armed with intelligence that the Boddole Zer main fleet was one of THOUSANDS of main fleets, the New UN Government had more reason than it could ever have wanted to pursue space colonization aggressively and immediately to ensure humanity's remaining eggs weren't all kept in a single basket should the Zentradi Army come calling again.
False Prophet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:32 am
They could had waited for the reconstruction of Earth and the development of proper technologies for space explorations - like rectifying the inherent weakness of the Megaroad-class?
Even with the cloning technology obtained from captured and surrendered Zentradi Army ships and facilities, the optimistic outlook for restoring Earth's surface to something approximating its prewar conditions was over 10,000 years. Even 30 years on in
Macross Plus, Earth's surface is mostly a barren desert. That crater-pocked sand pit you saw Isamu and Guld dogfighting over? That's
Alaska.
(The postwar planetary capital, Macross City, was built on a desert plain near the site of Grand Cannon 1 in what used to be the Yukon Charlie Rivers National Recreation Area close to Alaska's shared border with Canada's Yukon territory.)
Waiting around for ten millennia while over 2,000 more Zentradi Army main fleets like the one that'd just cleaned their proverbial clocks were tooling around the galaxy and over 3,000,000 ships from that selfsame fleet were still out there would have been a stupidly suicidal idea even if the planet wasn't basically uninhabitable at the time.
False Prophet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:32 am
Also, is the chance of Hikaru and his family getting out alive from whatever they encountered get significantly lower because they were riding on a Megaroad?
If they were attacked by something, then yeah... the
Megaroad-class wasn't made for fighting, or being anywhere close to fighting. It's a city in a bottle, with all the fragility that implies.
I've not seen any translations of it, though I don't have a comprehensive index of all translations.