Amion wrote:You're talking about Destiny as we know it, not as it could have been. You've lost my point that I believed Shinn was malleable enough to be a worthwhile character. And don't start saying there is no room for fanfiction here, because that's not what I'm talking about.
Look, that's fine. But if the question was what made SRW makes sense as compared to Destiny, I was hoping that you (or anyone) would come up with something that didn't make sense in Destiny and how SRW differs that it makes sense (or at least more sense), not just pointing out differences that you like.
If you're arguing for Shinn's potential as a character, I have no problem with that. But I think that has little to do with Destiny not "making sense." Maybe the more accurate way to phrase it, in this case, would be not living up to some people's expectations.
Shinn never grows up after killing Kira and he's not expected to, since his screentime is nonexistent for all practical purposes. All I was saying is that his anger and rage people seem to keep getting angry about is not what makes him a dislikable character, it's that he never grows out of this that causes us fans to pull our hair, especially when dealing with Kira's holier than thou nonsense.
To be fair, he did grow out of it when his anger got so bad that he became delusional and almost killed Lunamaria. It's just that some people don't like the way they did it.
Also, Kira's "holier than thou nonsense," if that's what you want to call it, is more directed toward Athrun than Shinn. And, frankly, I have no sympathy toward Athrun in Destiny. If anything, he is a much bigger problem to Shinn than Kira ever was.
And in what way does the Destiny Plan or Durandel in general not have to do with Shinn, or everyone for that matter. He wants to essential enslave the world with a gene caste system, and blatantly asks Shinn to help create this world. That was the last significant piece of development for him, yet it didn't affect his anger issues because Fukuda deemed it so.
It didn't because the Destiny Plan was supposed to be a solution to finally end the wars. And war is what took everything that meant anything to Shinn. So excuse him for trying to believe in something that could change his life for the better.
But like I said, it ultimately didn't matter as, in the short term, Shinn was dealing with LOGOS (and Orb by association) who supposedly benefited from creating wars.
So just forget I said anything, forgive me for attempting to find some potential in his anger, or pleasure in the fact that he's a soldier who does his job (albeit too happily) without crying for the souls he kills and wondering if it makes him a black-hearted anti-Kira.
For what it's worth, I think it's fine for Shinn to be that way too. That doesn't mean he has to be a black-hearted person, nor does it mean that he has to be vindicated either.
I meant this one. With the flaming face of the Gundam. And I actually just saw the new one you were talking about, don't like it at all either. It reminds me oddly of Soul Eater for some reason.
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