Muv Luv anime

[yazi88]

The thing is that each nation is thinking of the post BETA world and they want to secure a strong power base. If the Soviets get the gun, perfect it, and it leads to humanity's victory the world will be in their debt.

The gun might eventually come into everyone's hands. You know about the Mk.57 Squad Support Gun? Its a powerful gun made and used by the European forces, but eventually everyone else adopts it too. And I doubt the world will be in Soviet's debt if they keep foolishly and purposely losing forces and territory that will strengthen them in the end.

And remember about

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project Alternative V. These soviet head honchos could also be in league with the supporters of that project.

[Destiny_Gundam]

I doubt it

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since G-bombing the hell out of everything is a strictly American past time. Besides, If The Day After is any indication, the Soviets don't get the good end of Alternative V.

The Alternative V supporters are only interested in sabotauging Alternative IV so the railgun would have no value to them.

In any case, it would be "Wow, look at this great gun the Soviets have! Please Mr Soviet, sell us some of those!" And the Soviets would be able to go "Sure, but only if..." and thus they get other countries in their debt.

Recall how in the game

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before they attack the Original Hive Yuuko plans to mislead the American forces back to the surface since it's important that only UN forces complete the mission so no one country will be able to take credit for it (even if everyone involved is Japanese).

[yazi88]

Oh man, more chomp chomp this episode with the

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mechanic

and also

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Yuuya rescuing Yui

along with ANOTHER DAMN CLIFFHANGER!

[Compass]

I started watching this after Crunchy Roll. I do not get the overarching plot line, but the tension can be cut with a knife. Also, Yuuya is a dolt.

[Destiny_Gundam]

Which overarching plot line is giving you trouble?

The War against the BETA?

The TSF development project?

The current Soviet scheme?

[Compass]

The war against the BETA. The first episode gave an okay summary, but I guess I'm missing all the bits and pieces that would be present from the rest of Muv Luv, which I am wholly unfamiliar with.

I also assume there's something special about the Scarlet Twins that's been hinted, but I still don't have a grasp on that aside from the fact that they appear to be test tube people and psychic.

Also, is there some complex bit I'm missing regarding the BETA, or are the BETA simply Pac-Man going omnomnom across the earth? Like, I see that they eat people, but I also see that some of them eat machinery? Is their whole goal to find food and consume?

[Destiny_Gundam]

You're not missing that much, since the BETA are a complete mystery until the very end of the game. Humanity is fighting an enemy they cannot understand and cannot predict, which makes them all the more threatening. But if you must know:

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The BETA are organic automatons created by a Silicon based species to mine resources. Resources meaning carbon, meaning what humans (and pretty much everything we make) are made out of. The BETA are programmed with the assumption that carbon based life cannot occur naturally, therefore humans are not life forms.

They consume the resources, bring it back to their Hive, and either shoot it into space or recycle it to make more BETA. The Soldier class specifically are made out of recycled humans.

As for Inia and Cryska, what you've grasped is basically it, though their characters are only in Total Eclipse so the truth about them will be covered by the show at some point I'm sure.

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They're survivors of Alternative III, the attempt to communicate with the BETA using genetically engineered psychics.

[Compass]

This show is so riveting. The only thing that's missing is *stuffs jelly beans into mouth* the two protagonists getting together already. I've been shpoiled by Accel World and SAO with their fast love developments

[yazi88]

Keep in mind that Total Eclipse is a side-story to the main Muvluv Alternative game/LN. Any details about the BETA are secondary and that this show is not going to reveal their intentions and origin. This show is more about the diverse members of the UN forces that are testing new weapons while cooperating with each other while some of the respective countries (Soviet Union, US) have quite different views while dealing with others in the international community.

[Destiny_Gundam]

Reading the VNs is heavily recommended, btw.

[Compass]

Are they like classic FSN Rated M for Mature for content besides violence? *cough*

[Destiny_Gundam]

The Muv Luv games are actually pretty crappy when it comes to the porn. There's only one h-scene per route, and in Alternative there's just one period. The scenes themselves don't have much variety to them either, each getting only two CGs.

So yeah, it is a hentai game but the hentai part is extremely minimal and not worth playing the game for. You play it for the story.

[yazi88]

Damn, we finally see the power of the fort class this episode. At least after this episode we have a reason to finally see the Shiranai 2nd Phase 2 in Tekkaman Blade colors. But...

ANOTHER DAMN CLIFFHANGER!! What is this? The 5th one in a ROW?!!!

[EZero8]

Man, Yuuya taking on a horde of BETA with a half-functioning, heavily-damaged TSF armed with only a dinky combat knife was just straight up badass. Not to mention that he technically still has next to zero live combat experience and still managed to survive up to that point. Sure, protagonist plot armor and all that jazz, but keeping up that haughty, defiant attitude while facing imminent death takes a lot of guts.

Also, Yui's icy exterior is now just completely shattered, and it was not elegantly executed at that. Something about her characterization in recent episodes just makes her come off as completely pitiful and weak willed, throwing her resolve and past development completely out the window. I actually enjoyed watching her and Argos Flight constantly butting heads because of cultural and philosophical differences, but it seems now she's just content with just going along with what the others do.

[Compass]

Also, Yui's icy exterior is now just completely shattered, and it was not elegantly executed at that. Something about her characterization in recent episodes just makes her come off as completely pitiful and weak willed, throwing her resolve and past development completely out the window. I actually enjoyed watching her and Argos Flight constantly butting heads because of cultural and philosophical differences, but it seems now she's just content with just going along with what the others do.

In the US, we call this "poor character execution."
In Nippon, we call this "tsundere."



She definitely has had feelings for him since extended beach episode 8. The cannon that she had brought to protect him from the front lines was clearly meant to protect him, and not to test out the weapon. You would already call that out of character for when she introduced the weapon itself to Yuuya and he replied that it did not fit with the philosophy of TSF development. I assume the first-name aspect went over his head as he's clearly "not a Japanese" and therefore does not realize that using first names is the equivalent of relationship development in Japanese culture!

Also, Yuuya has no lights in the romance department. The last anime I watched where it made my brain hurt so much was probably Love Hina.

Random question. TSFs, do they fall under the jurisdiction of Army/Air Force/Navy? I know they refer to it often as the Army, but TSFs do fly. I'm not familiar with pre-WWII military, so I assume that it may be the IJA Air Service?

[bullethead]

Also, Yui's icy exterior is now just completely shattered, and it was not elegantly executed at that. Something about her characterization in recent episodes just makes her come off as completely pitiful and weak willed, throwing her resolve and past development completely out the window. I actually enjoyed watching her and Argos Flight constantly butting heads because of cultural and philosophical differences, but it seems now she's just content with just going along with what the others do.

In the US, we call this "poor character execution."
In Nippon, we call this "tsundere."



She definitely has had feelings for him since extended beach episode 8. The cannon that she had brought to protect him from the front lines was clearly meant to protect him, and not to test out the weapon. You would already call that out of character for when she introduced the weapon itself to Yuuya and he replied that it did not fit with the philosophy of TSF development. I assume the first-name aspect went over his head as he's clearly "not a Japanese" and therefore does not realize that using first names is the equivalent of relationship development in Japanese culture!

Also, Yuuya has no lights in the romance department. The last anime I watched where it made my brain hurt so much was probably Love Hina.

Oh, Yuuya has lights in the romance department, but the thing about him is that he's a TSF-sexual. He's so wrapped up in the Shiranai that he can't comprehend that Yui wants him to princess carry her all day, everyday.

[Destiny_Gundam]

Also, Yuuya has no lights in the romance department. The last anime I watched where it made my brain hurt so much was probably Love Hina.

Random question. TSFs, do they fall under the jurisdiction of Army/Air Force/Navy? I know they refer to it often as the Army, but TSFs do fly. I'm not familiar with pre-WWII military, so I assume that it may be the IJA Air Service?

Well Yuuya's ex will be showing up later so he's not completely romantically ignorant. He just has other priorities at the moment.

And TSFs are in the army, since the Air Force is useless thanks to Lasers and the Navy only provides off shore shelling since the BETA only attack on land.

[EZero8]

In the US, we call this "poor character execution."
In Nippon, we call this "tsundere."



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Meh. There's a big difference between simply being a tsundere and "you just blatantly ignored my orders oh well herp-derp I'll just roll with it." For a character who initially came off as completely "by-the-book" in terms of personality and expectations, with a not-so-subtle hint of YAMATO DAMASHII, it sucks to just see Yui ignore her resolve at the drop of a hat when she's fawning over Yuuya and his impulsiveness. I mean, you spent the last 3 episodes absolutely determined to destroy the cannon even at the risk of losing your own life, only to just shrug when he does the job half-heartedly and still manages to lose the core? What?

Also, Yuuya has no lights in the romance department. The last anime I watched where it made my brain hurt so much was probably Love Hina.

Harem leads... what'd you expect? I'd imagine it will only get worse once Yifei becomes a more central character and his ex also shows up.

Random question. TSFs, do they fall under the jurisdiction of Army/Air Force/Navy? I know they refer to it often as the Army, but TSFs do fly. I'm not familiar with pre-WWII military, so I assume that it may be the IJA Air Service?

Reading some of the mecha profiles in the Muv-Luv Wikia (yeah I know, probably not the best source), it appears that some countries like the US split and group TSF's into different categories of Army/Air Force/Navy and are differentiated by paint jobs.

[Compass]

... *goes to bash his head into a wall*

It's too complicated! Why! Is it mecha?! Is it horror?! Is it romance?!

Noah.doThriller();

[Destiny_Gundam]

It can't be all of them? A mecha romance horror?