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So today's episode was pretty cool I like how the Dark Hound implemented a flash bang or sorts a pretty damn practical weapon I am wondering where Wivik is though I hope they at lest explain him and don't just drop him with no reason lastly did any one notice that
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When Asemu saved Kio he used the same move that got Woolf killed but successfully saved Kio and lived it seems he lived out Woolf's last request to surpass him as a pilot
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schwarz ritter wrote:
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Arbiter GUNDAM wrote: Cursed treasure? What is this, they want to make this Pirates of the Caribbean in space as well?
Actually I got more of a Laplace's Box vibe with the whole cursed treasure thing.
And Laplace's Box doesn't sound at all like something Lord Cutler Beckett wouldn't want, eh?
LOL, I see what you did there

In all honesty you do make a good point

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Just finished watching ep 34, and considering Asemu/Ash's dialogue at the ending plus the teaser for the episode next week. Here's my guess
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He could have given the key to finding the treasure -that can allegedly change the course of the war- to Kio.
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zetatype wrote:
schwarz ritter wrote:
zetatype wrote: Actually I got more of a Laplace's Box vibe with the whole cursed treasure thing.
And Laplace's Box doesn't sound at all like something Lord Cutler Beckett wouldn't want, eh?
LOL, I see what you did there

In all honesty you do make a good point

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Apparently it's supposed to be some kind of technological database or something. Not sure how that will win them the war unless it has the plans to, like, the Death Star or The Crucible or Reeeeqqquuiiiieeemmmmm!
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Now we find he's become a scruffy space pirate, apparently carries little to no concern he hasn't seen his wife or son for 13 years, avoids talking to said son in order to see how well he fights and basically does all this in the name of what sounds like a pretty piss poor plan to combat the Vagan, instead of just flat out talking to his dad and son and being upfront.

....Why am I expected to believe this is the same character who was the second protagonist?
Totally agree, dude.
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Apparently it's supposed to be some kind of technological database or something. Not sure how that will win them the war unless it has the plans to, like, the Death Star or The Crucible or Reeeeqqquuiiiieeemmmmm!

Hmmm....I just came up with something:
"Palpatine grabbed the small, control device and released the safety, 'And now I shall reward you, fish-face...WITH THE DEATH STAR! A weapon designed especially for you and all of you kind!"

No, but seriously, what you guys say is totally right: it is a McGuffin. A greasy, old McGuffin. Ever since John Travolta and Mace Windu searched for it, movies and anime and TV are riddled with McGuffins.
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This episode really seemed to enjoy answering questions within seconds of them being asked.

The "war orphans" I was like... why are they in space? And then Wootbit goes and asks the same question. Everything felt explained a bit TOO fast. After spending a dozen or so episodes trying to figure out the Federation spy with a bunch of red herrings, now we don't even get the benefit of the doubt. We just get told.



And we've reached the point where a character no longer feels believable, at all.
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Compass wrote:This episode really seemed to enjoy answering questions within seconds of them being asked.

The "war orphans" I was like... why are they in space? And then Wootbit goes and asks the same question. Everything felt explained a bit TOO fast. After spending a dozen or so episodes trying to figure out the Federation spy with a bunch of red herrings, now we don't even get the benefit of the doubt. We just get told.



And we've reached the point where a character no longer feels believable, at all.


I fail to see how you can compare a character (who is in the military) asking why civilian children are on a military warship and then has his question answered, to the reveal of the traitor who was secretly working with the enemies of the entire world.

And then say that because of the fact that there was no BUILD UP to the super-special-awesome- reason-why THE KIDS are on the Diva means that the characters make no sense...well...THAT makes no sense Compass.

Woobit asks why the kids are on the ship because they are kids on a military warship...and because WE as a audience needed to know for the story.

Also, and I am just spit-balling here...maybe Woobit hates the Orphans as much as we do...and wants them off the ship.
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It's not just the "Oh, we're bringing them along" bit I'm referencing.

It's the...

"Oh, they're not actually war orphans! Their families were shipped to a colony for safety!"

"Oh, and that colony is on the way to the moon!"

"Which is where we're going. On a top secret mission!"

The characters feel like they're being thrown onto the ship and given awfully convenient reasons for being there.

Wootbit I can understand. "War Orphans" appears to have been placed there to anchor Wendy's screen time, and Unoa Asuno has been placed here for who knows what reason.

There could have been so much done to ground out these convenient facts and truths that have popped up for the past few episodes.

Asemu officially ranks up from Space Pilot to Space Pirate was a simple non-twist.

The post-episode Gundam mechanic thing asking "Why does Captain Ash have a Gundam? You'll find out later?" made me want to head desk.

Not saying I don't like the episode, just saying that this one was a pretty bumpy one from the writing department. It reminds me too much of Romary and Asemu having no real forward relational development until the very end of the arc and then time skipping to marriage.
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It makes sense to me. It's a desperate time for the Federation. The kids need to go to the moon, they're already on a ship going that way, therefore kill two birds with one stone and drop them off along the way. Consider that any commited evacuation ships have probably fled Earth by this point and the Diva was taking the long way to emergency command. It's probably not possible to get a refugee ship going just for 3 kids.

As for Gundapedia's "You'll find out later why he has a Gundam"....I've been worried about that segment ever since it had to explain Earth's atmosphere.
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Compass wrote:The post-episode Gundam mechanic thing asking "Why does Captain Ash have a Gundam? You'll find out later?" made me want to head desk.
Well, although Gundapedia question does sound stupid at first, but thinking back, it's established that the only remains found of Asemu prior to the SUPER PIRATE reunion was the AGE-2 core block and the AGE Device. So unless the EF left the core block alone on space and took only the AGE Device, which seems unlikely, Asemu does need to rebuild his AGE-2 back from scratches, without any blueprints of the machine itself. So how on earth does Asemu able to (re)built the Gundam?

My guess?
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EXA-DB, the military tech database and the titular treasure referred in next episode. I believe that not only does EXA-DB hold the secret tech from the past, it also actively achieving the tech from current era ie data from AGE System and the related Gundam wears. Since Bisidian found the EXA-DB in Memories of Sid, I guess Asemu got the blueprint from EXA-DB itself.
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Sulendil Zeta wrote:Well, although Gundapedia question does sound stupid at first, but thinking back, it's established that the only remains found of Asemu prior to the SUPER PIRATE reunion was the AGE-2 core block and the AGE Device. So unless the EF left the core block alone on space and took only the AGE Device, which seems unlikely, Asemu does need to rebuild his AGE-2 back from scratches, without any blueprints of the machine itself. So how on earth does Asemu able to (re)built the Gundam?
Or it could be a lot simpler and he left the Age-2 core and the Age device floating in space and faked his death with the Gundam intact.
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Not a bad episode. We definitely weren't left with any doubts as to who Captain Ash was. Not even mere moments after he was shown.

Calling it now, one of three things will happen.

A: Asemu "Ash" Asuno and the Visidian Space Pirates die to save the Diva
2: The Visidian Space Pirates become the "Eternal" of this season, and accompany the Diva to the Final Battle.
Zwei: The Visidian Ship gets destroyed saving the Diva, or Asemu himself, and Asemu rejoins the Diva. If so, expect a repainting, turning the Dark Hound into the AGE-2 Woolf Hound.

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Meh, I think less of an Eternal and more of a Kati Mannequin OHAI GUYS you thought you forgot me but I'm back and on the other side!
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Raptor wrote:Not a bad episode. We definitely weren't left with any doubts as to who Captain Ash was. Not even mere moments after he was shown.

Calling it now, one of three things will happen.

A: Asemu "Ash" Asuno and the Visidian Space Pirates die to save the Diva
2: The Visidian Space Pirates become the "Eternal" of this season, and accompany the Diva to the Final Battle.
Zwei: The Visidian Ship gets destroyed saving the Diva, or Asemu himself, and Asemu rejoins the Diva. If so, expect a repainting, turning the Dark Hound into the AGE-2 Woolf Hound.

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Compass wrote:"Oh, they're not actually war orphans! Their families were shipped to a colony for safety!"

"Oh, and that colony is on the way to the moon!"

"Which is where we're going. On a top secret mission!"
Maybe it's just me, but that entire exchange almost sounded to me while I read it like it could have come out of Red vs. Blue.

That said, while I have not seen the latest episode yet, I do agree that there does seem to have been a lot of convenience coincidences in the story so far that...kind stretch suspension of disbelief a bit too much.
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I am now wondering if there will be a showdown between Asemu and Zehart to conclude some unfinished business.

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Compass wrote:"Oh, they're not actually war orphans! Their families were shipped to a colony for safety!"

"Oh, and that colony is on the way to the moon!"

"Which is where we're going. On a top secret mission!"
Maybe it's just me, but that entire exchange almost sounded to me while I read it like it could have come out of Red vs. Blue.

That said, while I have not seen the latest episode yet, I do agree that there does seem to have been a lot of convenience coincidences in the story so far that...kind stretch suspension of disbelief a bit too much.
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Gundam 00's and SEED's orphans had major implications on characters and their development. These kids aren't even technically orphans. We assumed they were, and they were portrayed as such, but now they aren't.

I would not be surprised for them to have the colony the kids' parents are on to be blown up by the Vagans just to turn them back into war orphans. Not trying to be heartless or anything, but it's what I've come to expect from some of the random right turns the series performs. I liked the episode, but some of the things that happen just seem to make no sense or seem to be written in a state where they don't even know what'll happen the week after.
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Really makes me wonder if there is some kind of communication problem going on between Sunrise and Level 5 or if Sunrise can't change any of what Level 5 is writing because of contractual obligations or something.

Or maybe the production team is just not putting forth the effort. I think someone posted an article over in Neo's News that the production team were upset that everybody seems to hate their show.
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Arbiter GUNDAM wrote: Or maybe the production team is just not putting forth the effort. I think someone posted an article over in Neo's News that the production team were upset that everybody seems to hate their show.
You guessed it: they can't seem to understand why there's so much hatedom for the show, and with good reason. The haters just hate it due to the character designs and nothing else. Sure, its had its fair load of crap, but the haters have really affected the perception of the show.
Add the fact that AGE DVDs/BDs aren't selling as well as Unicorn BDs/DVDs. :/
Shame, as AGE was really promising great stuff in its first two arcs. I was really looking forward at what they might have had originally planned.
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