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Post by mcred23 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:21 pm

toysdream wrote:I'm not sure if this is an exception to the "Titans only use new machines" rule of thumb. Does anyone recall whether we see any of the Marine Hizack pilots in episode 18?
I don't think we ever see their pilots, however, I want to say that those Hong Kong guys (IIRC, they weren't Titans) who were helping Ben supplied them.
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Post by toysdream » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:40 pm

mcred23 wrote:I don't think we ever see their pilots, however, I want to say that those Hong Kong guys (IIRC, they weren't Titans) who were helping Ben supplied them.
I think it's likely the Marine Hizacks aren't being piloted by Titans. Although Ben Wooder and his soldiers have been rebranded as Titans, Wooder's Hizack pilots still wear regular Federation pilot suits, and I'd expect the same would be true of the Marine Hizack pilots. On the other hand, since the Marine Hizacks seem to have come from a local base rather than Wooder's carrier, we can't say for sure.

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Post by Draco Starcloud » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:37 pm

toysdream wrote:I'm not sure if this is an exception to the "Titans only use new machines" rule of thumb. Does anyone recall whether we see any of the Marine Hizack pilots in episode 18?
I took a look and I didn't see the pilots; the four Marine Zaku/Hi-Zacks jumped out of the Sudori and went to Hong Kong. Then an operator aboard Sudori said "Four Marine Hi-Zacks have been dispatched, sir."

I wouldn't be surprised if Feddie pilots were in them; most of the personnel I saw in that episode were Federal Forces troops; only Ben and, I think, two of the Sudori's crew were Titans.
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Post by Wingnut » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:01 pm

bilbros wrote:RX-77-2 Guncannon
Notes: Perhaps it's not exactly the kind of things that MAHQ profiles list, but a natural size replica of Hayato Kobayashi's Guncannon C 108 is clearly seen in episode 13, at the aerospace museum of the Kennedy Space Center.
As observed by Mark064 in another thread of this forum, in the same scenes other mechas are seen: they are clearly based on Xabungle designs, but since Dengeki MS Encyclopedia 2003 and other sources explicitely show them (labeled as EFF prototype MSs, albeit nameless), they cannot be considered as mere "inside jokes"...In any case I reported them only for the usual sake of completeness.
I don't think we're going to add that for the reasons you said: It is just a museum piece and nothing more. If we were to include it, we would also have to include the Zaku II and Gelgoog in the F91 listings as non functional units of both models are seen in Roy Jung's war museum in Frontier IV.
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Post by Cardi Doorl » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:05 pm

Shouldn't these notes start going in the thread for Old Gundam profile corrections? I noticed billbros has started pointing things out that were already pointed out there, like the Musai Kai-class not belonging under the Titans header.
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Post by Mark064 » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:30 am

I'd say no because these all aren't old profile corrections so it'd just fill that topic with some discussion and new info and not just profile corrections which would go against that topic.

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Post by bilbros » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:13 am

Well, thanks a lot to everybody again...
It seems that my quite "pedantic" (at times redundant and incorrect :? ) notes are arising very interesting and useful comments, further improving our general knowledge of Gundam!
This encourages me to continue.. and please forgive me if some of my remarks may seem a bit pointless or outdated :)

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Post by toysdream » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:15 am

No, thank you! Poring over these fiddly little details is a lot of fun. :-)

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Post by toysdream » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:06 pm

At risk of double-posting, let me update this with a couple more observations about the vintage mobile suits that appear in Zeta Gundam.

GM II: I think the GM II pilots in episode 6 are definitely regular Federation Forces. In this episode, the bad guys deploy three Hizacks, three GM IIs, and Lila's Galbaldy Beta team, but during the mission briefing we see only two Titan pilots (Jerid and Kacricon) and at least half a dozen Federation pilots. There must be a third Hizack pilot hiding in the back someplace, but otherwise all the pilots who fight in this episode are regular Federation ones. Between this and episode 2, I think we can conclusively say that the Titans themselves never use the GM II.

Marine Hizack: We don't see their pilots in episode 18. I note, though, that they're deployed from the Sudori as it approaches New Hong Kong, while the Hong Kong security forces send a boat to pick up Ben Wooder and Namicar Cornell. This suggests to me that the Marine Hizacks joined the Sudori en route rather than being dispatched from a local base. Perhaps they were delivered with one of the Murasame Lab's cargo shipments, or perhaps the Sudori picked them up in Hawaii, since that layover was mentioned in dialogue. Hawaii actually seems like a logical place for the Federation Forces to station Marine Hizacks.

Galbaldy Beta: For the most part this machine is used exclusively by regular Federation Forces, perhaps because the Titan pilots aren't good enough to handle it. However, the Dogosse Gier brings along more than a dozen during its diplomatic trip to Axis. I note that the Zeta Gundam movies also show the Dogosse Gier deploying large numbers of blue Hizacks during this voyage, which indicates that the ship is carrying regular Federation Forces mobile suits as well as Titans ones. It's possible that the Titans just staffed the ship with the best mobile suit teams they had available, whether they were Titans or not.

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Post by bilbros » Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:35 am

Finally, I'm able to post images, so let's start with the Mobile Suit Gundam ships and vehicles formerly reported in one of my first posts.
Please let me know if links don't work.

Anti-Zaku use tank
http://img191.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _497lo.jpg

Flyarrow (screenshot from epsiode 15)
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _762lo.jpg

Missile buggy
http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?imag ... _951lo.jpg

Missile car
http://img179.imagevenue.com/loc540/th_ ... _540lo.jpg

Space Launch
http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _771lo.jpg

Trailer
http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _699lo.jpg

Vulcan armored car
http://img16.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... 1199lo.jpg

Komyu
http://img149.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _927lo.jpg

Launch
http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1053lo.jpg

Wappa
http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 2_12lo.jpg

Zeon Space Carrier (unofficial name)
[I know you do't list stuff appearing only in the openings, but I post this image for those who haven't never seen this vessel; in the second image it's enclosed by a red rectangle]
http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 22_6lo.jpg
http://img149.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _804lo.jpg

The last images are screenshots from episode 35, showing "guest" super-robots Tetsujin 28, Raideen and possibly Daitarn 3 or Danguard Ace
http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 2_33lo.jpg
http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?imag ... _639lo.jpg
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Post by Mark064 » Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:20 am

Mmm looking at that super robot pic again that has to be Daitarn 3, though a totally horrible looking one. Raideen and Tetsujin are both perfect but Daitarn 3 is horrible and totally discolored. The legs are what really confused me as these show off solid white legs and well I'm not even sure what kind of head that is, maybe Jeeg looking. But the chest and shoulders are perfectly Daitarn 3 well they are about the only things that are...

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Post by Wingnut » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:52 am

Well that is interesting. Guess G Gundam wasn't the first to do that.
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Post by bilbros » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:38 pm

More images of previously-noted mechas!8)

- Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team

RX-75 Guntank Mass Production Type (Working Use)
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... 1158lo.jpg

Dish
http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _683lo.jpg

Fanfan
http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... 1161lo.jpg

Hover Cargo Truck
http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1101lo.jpg

Jungle Boat (featuring only in the opening; just for those who never seen it)
http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 2_51lo.jpg

MS-14S (YMS-14) Gelgoog Commander Type [screenshot from episode 12; the Gelgoog is red only because of the heat generated by atmospheric re-entry]
http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _623lo.jpg

Armored vehicle
http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _862lo.jpg

Sealance [screenshot from episode 6]
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1175lo.jpg[/b]

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- Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket

Zuck [2 units around the Alex; screenshot from episode 5]
http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _827lo.jpg

Cold District Use A.P.C. (Type A)
http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... 1106lo.jpg

Cold District Use A.P.C. (Type B)
http://img166.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _669lo.jpg

From left to right: "Zeon Mobile Worker", Zeon use RH-35E Riah 35 Draken-E, "Zaku I Kai" or redesigned MS-05B Zaku I (in background) [screenshot from episode 5]
http://img191.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _589lo.jpg

For comparison: "Zaku I Kai" or redesigned MS-05B Zaku I [from Entertainment Bible 1 - One Year War edition (page 65)]
http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _728lo.jpg

Camouflaged Freighter
http://img189.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 2_22lo.jpg

Enigmatic Zeon space vessel ("Pazock Kai") [screenshot from episode 5]
http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1110lo.jpg
http://img34.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _950lo.jpg

Riah Colony Defense Forces: Missile car [screenshot from episode 4]
http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _747lo.jpg

Riah Colony Defense Forces: Helicopter [screenshot from episode 4]
http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _729lo.jpg

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Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory / Last Blitz of Zeon

Command Vehicle
http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1134lo.jpg

RGM-79Q GM Quel [units with GM Kai-style arms; custom-made lineart]
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1187lo.jpg

Trailer
http://img157.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _778lo.jpg

Colony Corporation Ship [image already present in a MAHQ profile, but erroneously assigned]
http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _738lo.jpg

Earth Federation Forces Patrol Vessel [image already present in a MAHQ profile, but erroneously assigned]
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _635lo.jpg

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Post by bilbros » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:42 pm

And now, let's go on with the series "text" contribution

Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ
For this series my direct knowledge is very limited; nevertheless I would like to notice some tiny additions and, as usual, remarks.

AEUG (Anti-Earth Union Group)/Karaba/Earth Federation Forces

RMS-099 Rick Dias
Notes: As someone already noted some time ago in another thread of this forum, a red-colored Rick Dias is briefly seen in episode 2, inside Argama's hangar, so RMS-099 should be added to the listings.

Missile car
Notes: At least one unit is seen in Garudaya city (or however you want to spell it; the original katakana is GARUDA-YA) on episode 31. I suppose it belongs to the civilian city defence forces, since it's used by people without a uniform. In any case, this is the same type of 6-wheeled armored vehicle with an 8-tube missile launcher already appeared in Mobile Suit Gundam, 0080 and Z Gundam.

Neo Zeon

Zssa AMX-102
Notes: As far as I can see, the image used on MAHQ profile to designate this MS equipped with booster is actually a depiction of the Booster only (without the AMX-102).

RMS-099B Schuzrum Dias
Notes: I know that some Western-alphabet renditions for Japanese Gundam terms are frequently changing, and it seems that as a rule MAHQ follows the most recent official sources; I imagine that this is the reason why this MS (formerly labeled "Sturm Dias"; original katakana SHIyuZURUMU DEiASU) has now changed its name.
However, there are several circumstances in which Western-alphabet renditions are used in an oddish or inconsistent way [see for instance some old B-Club garage kit boxes or the MS list on Entertainment Bible 46 - MS Picture Encyclopedia Part.7: Delaz Conflict Edition (second volume), pages 135-139]. Furthermore, the change "Sturm" => "Schuzrum" wasn't applied to other names which in Japanese have the same katakana SHIyuZURUMU: e.g. the Sturm Booster (original katakana SHIyuZURUMU BU-SUTA-) used by the AGX-04 Gerbera Tetra or the Sturm Faust (original katakana SHIyuZURUMU FUaUSUTO) carried by MS-09F/trop Dom Tropen and AMS-119 Geara Doga.
In German the word "Sturm" means "storm", or in military jargon, "assault", which definitely makes sense in all the above-mentioned examples (including RMS-099B). Moreover, the correct Western-alphabet rendition "Sturm Faust" is explicitely used by Bandai 1/100 Master Grade kit manuals (e.g. MS-09 Dom).
Of course names used to designate mobile suit shouldn't necessarily have an actual meaning (and indeed, as far as I know, "Schuzrum" is completely meaningless), but since the katakana SHIyuZURUMU is more correctly transliterated as "Sturm" in relation to AGX-04, MS-09F/trop and AMS-119, it seems logical to conclude that the RMS-099B should be named Sturm Dias (likewise, it's evident that this is a mere quibble, but as you've probably realized I feed on such things!) :wink:
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Post by Mark064 » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:57 pm

I'm not sure if the Schuzrum Dias is even actually a change for the times, Gundam Mechanics IV gave the exact same spelling and that was released back in 1999. Which is actually the exact same name used in MS Encyclopedia 2003, EB46, and Gundam Fact File and I assume more sources as well. For the weapons of the suits you have listed it's in agreement that it is Strum, while this seems to be the exception. Like oh 90% of the Gundam Mobile Suits it's possible that it does mean nothing at all, or have some obscure meaning in some other language. This was before Yutaka Izubuchi inserted his German fetish into 0080 afterall. So my best guess is that it's just a coincidence that the name is identical to Sturm but since that wasn't their original intention they have it differently as Schuzrum.

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Post by toysdream » Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:19 pm

Mark064 wrote:I'm not sure if the Schuzrum Dias is even actually a change for the times, Gundam Mechanics IV gave the exact same spelling and that was released back in 1999.
On the other hand, when it first appeared in Model Graphix's "Gundam Wars Project Z" book, it was correctly spelled as "Sturm Dias." And that was before it even showed up in Gundam ZZ.
For the weapons of the suits you have listed it's in agreement that it is Strum, while this seems to be the exception.
Not to be nitpicky, but I wish people would spell this correctly. It's "Sturm," not "Strum" like a guitar. As for the origins of the name, the Sturm Dias was created by Mamoru Nagano, who was a Germanophile even before Izubuchi showed up.

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Post by bilbros » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:31 pm

These are the last images of previously-noted mechas. From the next post onwards (see below), I will allways try to provide images and text at the same time.

- Mobile Suit Z Gundam

H.L.L.V.
http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1079lo.jpg

Small type spaceboat
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _815lo.jpg

Transport ship [screenshot from episode 12]
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?imag ... _619lo.jpg

Missile car [screenshot from episode 12]
http://img177.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _366lo.jpg

Trailer [screenshot from episode 2]
http://img159.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1173lo.jpg

Space launch
http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _530lo.jpg

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Post by bilbros » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:37 pm

And now, contributions for another series 8)

Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack

Londo Bell/Earth Federation Forces

Vehicles and Support Units

Patrol Boat
Unit type: small type space boat
Notes: These vessels, provided of a radome and a landing arm, are used in surveilling and guarding Londenion spaceport. They are seen by Hathaway Noa and Quess Paraya as they watch from the Ra Cailum porthole.
* Lineart
http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _870lo.jpg

Neo Zeon

NZ-333 α Azieru
Notes: On the Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack page (but not on the corresponding mecha profile) there's a typo, therefore the initial "a" should be replaced py an "α".

Vehicles and Support Units

Neo Zeon Launch
Unit type: camouflaged launch
Notes: This is the vessel used by Char (together with Holst and other high-ranking Neo Zeon officers), to move from the ship Rewloola to Londenion colony. The "SSE" painting on its cargo bay shows that it's camouflaged as a civilian transport.
* Lineart
http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _716lo.jpg

Neo Zeon Patrol Boat
Unit type: small type space boat
Crew: 4 people
Notes: This vessel is used as a surveillance and guard boat in Sweet Water area. It's provided of double cockpit (upper and lower), a coin-shaped turning radome (mounted on the lower part of its hull) and a front sensor dome.
* Lineart
http://img163.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1194lo.jpg

Civilian

Vehicles and Support Units

Plenitude [original katakana: PURENICHIyu-DO]
Unit type: Transport ship
Dimensions: overall length 130 meters
Notes: These medium-sized freighters are seen at the very beginning of the movie, flying above Anaheim Electronics' plant. Each ship is provided of a crane arm and VTOL engines and carries 6 cubic containers with a side of 22 meteres (for a total volume of 792 cubic meters), disposed on 2 rows.
* Lineart
http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _338lo.jpg

Shuttle "Tien Lu"
Unit type: Civilian passenger space shuttle
Notes: This is the 3-stage shuttle used by Hathaway Noa, Quess Paraya and her father Adenauer to leave from Hong Kong spaceport. The first stage is a giant HST used to launch from the catapult, the second is a booster-like element, while the third is the passenger shuttle in a more strict sense.
Its Chinese name is formed by two kanji literally meaning "Sky Deer" or "Heaven Deer".
* Lineart (passenger shuttle)
http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _699lo.jpg
* Lineart (passenger shuttle + booster)
http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... 1106lo.jpg
* Lineart (passenger shuttle + booster + HST)
http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _173lo.jpg

Tug Boat
Unit type: Space tugboat
Notes: This vessel is used to drag the Ra Cailum towards Londenion spaceport. It's provided of 4 movable thruster arms and 2 working use manipulators.
* Lineart
http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _134lo.jpg[/url][/b]

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Post by bilbros » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:16 pm

Mobile Suit Gundam F91

Earth Federation Forces/Civilian Militia Forces

Vehicles and Support Units

Armored Buggy A
Unit type: Armored buggy
Armament: Machine gun emplacement x 1, 4-tube missile launcher x 2
Crew: 2
Unit type: 6-wheeled armored car
Armament: 2-large missile launcher x 2, double machine gun x 1
Notes: This Earth Federation Forces special car is initially used at Frontier IV, during Crossbone Vanguard first attack, and later at Frontier I.
Other units are seen at Cosmo Babylon (former Frontier IV) guarding the military parade, so they should be considered belonging to Crossbone Vanguard too.
* Lineart
http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _790lo.jpg

Armored Buggy B
Unit type: Armored buggy
Armament: Machine gun emplacement x 1, 3-tube missile pod x 2
Crew: 2
Notes: This armored vehicle (smaller than the previous Armored Buggy A) is used at Frontier IV, during Crossbone Vanguard first attack.
* Lineart
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?imag ... 1115lo.jpg

Armored Car
Unit type: Armored car
Armament: Machine gun emplacement x 1
Notes: This vehicle used by Earth Federation Forces is characterized by light armor and high speed.
* Lineart
http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _934lo.jpg

Missile Armored Car
Unit type: 6-wheeled armored car
Armament: 2-large missile launcher x 2, double machine gun x 1
Notes: This Earth Federation Forces special car is initially used at Frontier IV, during Crossbone Vanguard first attack, and later at Frontier I.
Other units are seen at Cosmo Babylon (former Frontier IV) guarding the military parade, so they should be considered belonging to Crossbone Vanguard too.
* Lineart
http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _790lo.jpg

Wired Missile Car
Unit type: 6-wheeled armored car
Armament: 8-tube missile luncher, 3-smoke discharger x 2
Notes: This weapon used to counter Crossbone Vanguard MS forces at Fronier I can be considered the most recent version of the Missile Car already noticed for Mobile Suit Gundam, 0080, Z and ZZ.
* Lineart
http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _638lo.jpg

Civilian (or perhaps Crossbone Vanguard)

Vehicles and Support Units

Paint Coloring Vehicle
Unit type: 6-wheeled coloring vehicle
Notes: These funny "Time Bokan"-like vehicles are used to emblazon the exterior of Cosmo Babylon colony (former Frontier IV) with the Cosmo Babylonia flag.
* Lineart
http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 2_87lo.jpg

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Mobile Suit V Gundam
Just few notes for this series, since my direct knowledge of it is extremely limited.

League Militaire

Vehicles and Support Units

Core Fighter Carrier (unofficial name)
Unit type: Hovering carrier
Notes: I don't know in which episode this sort of hovering platform appears. I've only got an art published on Mediaworks Mobile Suit Gundam in Comic MS Saga vol. 5, and more in particular from a section entitled The Foundation Knowledge of Victory Gundam, where it's showed without captions or explanations.
* Lineart
http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1079lo.jpg

La Vie En Rose 4
Notes: On most sources (e.g. Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999), it is more properly indicated as La Vie En Rose IV (i.e. the number 4 is written in Roman ordinal notation).

Reinforce
Notes: I've found some sources indicating that this is an Ark class ship, and ideed its general appearance might resemble the Space Ark from Mobile Suit Gundam F91 (which, in turn, can be considered an "evolution" of the Clop class).

Zanscare Empire (BESPA - Ballistic Equipment & Space Patrol Armory)

Gwigsy
Notes: On Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999 this odd-looking mecha is termed defence machine, whereas on Mediaworks MS Encyclopedia 2003 it isn't presented at all. I wonder if it can be considered a true Mobile Weapon, or if it would be better to list it under the "Vehicles and Support Units" heading.

Contio ZM-S14S
Notes: Some sources more or less explicitly refer to the Early Production Type or Prototype unit (with the beam shield placed on the elbow) as ZMT-S14S. For instance, Mediaworks MS Encyclopedia 2003 reports the Contio as ZM-S14S (ZMT-S14S), whereas Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999 it has only the ZMT-S14S label.

ZM-S22G Imperial Rig Shokew
Notes: Although on Mediaworks MS Encyclopedia 2003 the model number is reported as ZM-S22G, on Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999 this MS is labeled ZM-S22SC. I personally think that this latter model number is more appropriate, since in Zanscare Empire designations the final "G" stands for ground unit (but, as far as I know, the Imperial Rig Shokew is used only in space), while a "C" added to the last model number letter indicates a custom version (e.g. ZM-S08GC Zolo Kai), which is exactly the case of the Imperial Rig Shokew. Of course, this is only an opinion...

Vehicles and Support Units

Gattarl class "Kou" & Gattarl class "Ohtu"
Notes: I don't know why MAHQ lists these battle bikes as "Gattarl class"; surely they're used by Gaddarl squadron [original katakana: GAtsuDA-RU; sometimes transliterated as Gattarl] leaded by Docker Iq.
On Mediaworks MS Encyclopedia 2003 and Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999 they're presented together with ZMT-A03G Galicson, and they're respectively named Battle Bike Kou Type (where "Kou" is a kanji meaning "former") and Battle Bike Otsu Type (where "Otsu" is a kanji meaning "latter"). These three mechas are all qualified as Bike-type mobile weapons (long ago I found a reference calling them Mobile Bike), and this can lead to think that they could be listed under the "Mobile Weapon" rather than "Vehicles and Support Units" heading.

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Post by bilbros » Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:16 pm

This time, we'll deal with a non-UC series...It's quite a lot of stuff :)

After War Gundam X

Vulture

Mobile Weapons

DT-6800A Daughtress
Notes: According to Mediaworks MS Encyclopedia 2003, Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999, Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue and Keibunsha After War Gundam X Mobile Suit Collection, as well as to After War Gundam X official website the standard Daughtress is simply labeled DT-6800. As reported by the latter three sources, the model number DT-6800A properly designates only units belonging to Alternative Company (episodes 1, 3, 4 and 5)
The blue unit customized with RMS-006 Jenice parts, used by bandits and featuring in episode 2 is sometimes referred to as Daughtress Kai (e.g. Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue, page 91).
* Daughtress Kai (on the right; screenshot from episode 2)
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Jenice RMS-006G
Unit type: ground combat mobile suit
Manufacturer: Space Revolutionary Army
Operator(s): Space Revolutionary Army; Satelicon [the original katakana for the faction is SATERIKON, so I use this spelling rather than "Satyricon" adopted by MAHQ]; Vulture; miscellaneous civilians
First deployment: pre-A.W. 0001
Accommodation: pilot only, in standard cockpit in torso
Dimensions: head height 16.6 meters
Weight: empty 7.7 metric metric tons; max gross weight unknown
Armor materials: titanium alloy ceramic composite
Powerplant: ultracompact fusion reactor, power output rating unknown
Equipment and design features: sensors, range unknown
Fixed armaments: 2 x machine cannon, fire-linked, mounted in torso; 2 x vulcan gun, fire-linked, mounted in torso
Optional hand armaments: 100mm machine gun; heat hawk
Customized fixed armaments: 2 x vulcan gun, fire-linked, mounted in head
Customized hand armaments: halberd / naginata; spiked mace; spiked club, etc.
Notes: This is a land combat use version of the standard RMS-006 Jenice. The main external differences are the lack of verniers and geneally the smooth shoulder armors. After the 7th Space War, many units with personal / field modifications are used by various factions.
Several different types of such customizations (each with its peculiar coloring and armaments) are seen in episode 2, and are generally referred to as Jenice Kai or Jenice Custom. Since some of them might be actually based on space use units, their model number is sometimes listed either as RMS-006G or as RMS-006. An example of this ambiguity is Vedova Morte's Jenice Kai Slash Buffalo, "indifferently"designated as RMS-006 (e.g. Mediaworks MS Encyclopedia 2003) or RMS-006G (e.g. After War Gundam X official website).
Descriptions and figurations of RMS-006G are provided by After War Gundam X official website, Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue, Keibunsha After War Gundam X Mobile Suit Collection and Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999. Indeed, also the old Bandai 1/144 scale RMS-006 Jenice Custom limited model kit, despite the box label, is a G type Jenice.
* Lineart (uncolored)
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* Jenos Crisis clan use (featuring in episode 15; this is the "standard" RMS-006G Jenice)
http://img191.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _576lo.jpg

* Rosso Aramanto squad use (featuring in episode 5; possibly based on RMS-006 Jenice)
http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... 1173lo.jpg

* marauders/bandits Jenice Kai (on the left and center; screenshot from episode 2)
http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _729lo.jpg

RMS-009G Septem Kai
Unit type: ground combat heavy mobile suit
Manufacturer: Vulture (based on a design by the Space Revolutionary Army)
Operator(s): Vulture
First deployment: unknown (?A.W. 0015)
Accommodation: pilot only, in standard cockpit in torso
Dimensions: head height 16.5 meters
Weight: empty 9.0 metric metric tons; max gross weight unknown
Armor materials: unknown
Powerplant: ultracompact fusion reactor, power output rating unknown
Equipment and design features: sensors, range unknown
Fixed armaments: 2 x 50mm machine gun, fire-linked, mounted in torso
Optional hand armaments: giant bazooka, 100mm machine gun
Customized fixed armaments: shoulder shield
Customized hand armaments: lance / halberd; spiked club, shield, etc.
Notes: This is a modified version of the RMS-009 Septem, adapted for land combat by various Vulture groups. Coloring aside, it usually has no external differences compared to the standard model. An exception is made for some customized units featuring in episode 2, which are fixed with parts from Jenice and other mobile suits. One of them has the same shield (and apparently also colors) of Cima Garahau's MS-14Fs Gelgoog Marine Commander Type from 0083.
Descriptions and figurations of RMS-009G are provided by After War Gundam X official website, Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue, Keibunsha After War Gundam X Mobile Suit Collection and Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999.
* various marauders/bandits use units, together with some Jenice Kai and customized Daughtress (screenshot from episode 2)
http://img179.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _110lo.jpg

* various marauders/bandits use Septem Kai and Jenice Kai (screenshot from episode 2; note the unit with MS-14Fs shield)
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* another marauders/bandits use Septem Kai (screenshot from episode 2)
http://img183.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _230lo.jpg

* Zakott Dattner squad use (screenshot from episode 3)
http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _353lo.jpg

* Rosa Intenso squad use (featuring in episode 5; erroneously listed by MAHQ as RMS-009 Septem Vulture colors)
http://img152.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _680lo.jpg

RMS-014G Octape Kai (erroneously listed by MAHQ as RMS-014 Octape Vulture colors)
Unit type: ground combat high mobility mobile suit
Manufacturer: Space Revolutionary Army
Operator(s): Space Revolutionary Army; Vulture
First deployment: pre-A.W. 0001
Accommodation: pilot only, in standard cockpit in torso
Dimensions: head height 17.2 meters
Weight: empty 9.3 metric metric tons; max gross weight unknown
Armor materials: unknown
Powerplant: ultracompact fusion reactor, power output rating unknown
Equipment and design features: sensors, range unknown
Fixed armaments: 2 x 50mm Gatling cannon, fire-linked, mounted in torso; beam saber, hand-carried in use
Optional hand armaments: 100mm machine gun
Notes: Coloring aside, the land combat version of the RMS-014 Octape has no external differences compared to the standard model. In the series is seen in episode 5, deployed by the Vulture Grits Joe, commander of a Tenzan class land battleship.
Descriptions and figurations of RMS-014G are provided by After War Gundam X official website, Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue and Keibunsha After War Gundam X Mobile Suit Collection.
* Lineart
http://img192.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _110lo.jpg

Vehicles and Support Units

Alps class (Freeden)
Notes: The name of this land battleship (original katakana FURI-DEN) derives from a Germanic term meaning "peace", but I find it rather curious that the spelling adopted by MAHQ (which obviously comes from official sources) is the Low Saxon "Freeden" rather than the normal German one Frieden.

GS-9900 G-Falcon
Notes: This support vehicle is more commonly reported without a model number (e.g. Mediaworks MS Encyclopedia 2003, Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue, Keibunsha After War Gundam X Mobile Suit Collection and Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999) or with an explicitely unknown model number (e.g. After War Gundam X official website, Bandai 1/100 scale model kit).
So my question is: from which source this datum comes? As far as I know, the model number for G-Falcon is reported only by three cards (U-X88, U-X89 and U-X90) of Bandai's Gundam War trading card game, showing GS-9900 docked with GX-9900 Gundam X, GW-9800 Gundam Airmaster and GT-9600 Gundam Leopard, respectively.

Pyrennes class
Notes: Another transliteration quibble...Since After War Gundam X landships names derive from mountains [Alps, Rocky, Tenzan (i.e. Japanese on-yomi version of the Chinese Tien Shan or Tian Shan chain)], Rosa Intenso's ship (original katakana PIRENE-) should be spelled Pyrenees, which is the European mountain range located between France and Spain.

Concerning land battleships (and amphibious models too), Keibunsha After War Gundam X Mobile Suit Collection has a very interesting section on these vessels, reporting also some classes which to my knowledge don't feature in the show (in the following lists these latter are underlined):

Land battleships (all these names refer to mountain belts)
Himalaya class (original katakana: HIMARAYA): Overall length: over 200 meters
Tenzan class: Overall length: up to 200 meters
Andes class (original katakana: ANDESU): Overall length: up to 180 meters
Alps class: Overall length: up to 150 meters
Rocky class: Overall length: up to 120 meters
Pyrenees class: Overall length: up to 100 meters

Amphibious land battleships (all these names refer to oceanic abysses belonging to the Philippines trench - Mariana trench area)
Vitjaz class (original katakana: BICHIASU): Overall length: over 180 meters
Trieste class: Overall length: up to 160 meters
Challenger class (original katakana: CHIyaRENJIya-): Overall length: up to 140 meters
Galathea class (original katakana: GARASHIA): Overall length: up to 120 meters
Emden class (original katakana: EMUDEN): Overall length: up to 100 meters

Trieste class
From the above-mentioned book, here's the complete spec for Zakott Dattner's amphibious land battleship:
Overall length: 180 meters
Overall height: 51 meters
Overall width: 73 meters
Standard displacement (=empty weight in underwater conditions): 62300 metric tons
Maximum land cruising speed: 100 km/h
Maximum underwater cruising speed: 26 knots
Fixed armaments: torpedo launcher x 6, missile launcher x 7, 140mm machine gun x 8
Crew: 93
Maximum mobile suit capacity: 20
Notes: Trieste is a Northeastern Italy coastal city, and its name was used by Jacques and Auguste Piccard's famous bathyscaphe employed to reach the bottom of the Mariana trench.

New United Nations Earth

Vehicles and Support Units

Aerial Bomber
Notes: This plane featuring in episode 25 is actually a "recycled" design from the Earth Federation Forces Transporter seen in Mobile Suit Victory Gundam. The only difference (role aside), is the lack of the "PCST" marking.

Bandaal II
Unit type: mobile land fortress
Armament: beam cannons x many, photon particle beam cannon x 2
Niotes: This is the New United Nations Earth 36th District army flagship, commanded by General Kazaf; appearance-wise it's identical to the Bandaal already seen in episodes 25-28. This one features in episode 31, where it's used to attack 8th Space army base.

Speedboat
Unit type: speedboat
Niotes: This medium-sized vessel seen in peisode 23 is part of the Berkomo squad near the Newtype Laboratories at Zonder Epta base.
* Lineart
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United Nations Earth

Mobile Weapons

DT-6600 Daughtap Underwater Type
Notes: According to Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue and Keibunsha After War Gundam X Mobile Suit Collection, this is an United Nations Earth prototype design, but after the 7th Space War it's used as salvage and worker unit by Vulture gropus (a fact confrmed also by After War Gundam X official website). In the series is seen on episode 16, used by the Sea Vulture group called Orc; therefore it should be listed also under that faction.

GX-9900-GB G-Bit D.O.M.E
Notes: On Mediaworks MS Encyclopedia 2003 the model number is FX-9900-D; I've found other sources (mostly unofficial) which designate it as FX-9900-GB or FX-9900.

Vehicles and Support Units

MS use Dory [original katakana DO-RI-; I thnik it refers to a type of flat fishing boat]
Unit type: MS transport trailer
Notes: This bed-style MS transport vehicle is seen in episodes 1, 16, 21, 35. Its function is essentially the same as the Trailer featuring in Mobile Suit Gundam, 0083 and Z Gundam.
* Lineart
http://img163.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _980lo.jpg

Space Revolutionary Army

Mobile Weapons

MAN-002 Febral
Notes: On After War Gundam X official website the model number is RMSN-002; other old (mostly unofficial) sources designated it as RMAN-002.

RMS-006G Jenice
[see above, under the heading "Vulture"]

Vehicles and Support Units

Armored Car
Notes: On Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue it's Revolutionary Light Armored Vehicle; it features in in episode 33, during a military parade. Its aspect is exactly identical to the Armored Car which I've already reported for Mobile Suit Gundam F91 in my previous post (with lineart coming from Newtype 100% Collection n.18 Mobile Suit Gundam F91). As a consequence, I don't think that is original mechanical designer can be Junya Ishigaki: obviously it's a Kunio Okawara (or perhaps Yoshikazu Yasuhiko) design, eventually "recycled" in After War Gundam X, with no reworking at all.

Tank
Unit type: main battle tank
Notes: On Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue it's Revolutionary Armored Vehicle. Used during Operation Lilac of the 7th Space War (as can be seen in episode 12), it features also in episode 33.
* Lineart
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Satelicon [for the transliteration, see above, under the Operator(s) of RMS-006G]

Mobile Weapons

RMS-006 Jenice
Notes: Satelicon units featuring in episode 33 lack verniers and shoulder spikes, and Gundam X Official MS Catalogue explicitely refers to them as G type Jenice, so, despite they're used in space, they should be listed as RMS-006G.
* Lineart
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Orcs

Vehicles and Support Units

Sea Castle
Unit type: recovery ship
Note: This is Doza Bale's mothership. It features in episodes 16 and 17, and it's escorted by two combat transport ships (both destroyed by GT-9600 Gudam Leopard).
* Lineart (Sea Castle)
http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima ... _940lo.jpg
* Lineart (Sea Castle escort ship)
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People's Republic of Estard/Democratic Republic of Gastar/United Kingdom of Northernbell

Mobile Weapons

ENG-002 Pylon Kai
Unit type: general purpose mass production mobile suit
Operator: Democratic Republic of Gastar
Pilot: Wilis Aramis
Notes: This name refers to a Pylon used by Gastar forces in episode 28, which head resembles that of ENG-001 Estardoth.
* Lineart
http://img187.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _130lo.jpg

Civilians

Mobile Weapons

Esperansa
Notes: In the native language of the manufacturer of this handmade mobile armor, its name means "hope". I suppose that this imply a sort of "Latin" origin for the character, since the Spanish term for it is "esperanza".
Most sources report no model number for this mecha, and as far as I know, Take Shobo The Gundam Chronicles - The History of Mobile Suit Gundam Animations 1979-1999 is the only one designating it as DTM-700D.

Vehicles and Support Units

Freighter
Notes: On Comic Bonbon Special 111 Mobile New Century Gundam X Official MS Catalogue these transport ships featuring in episode 17 are simply called Sea Vulture ships.

Sand Buggy
Notes: this small blue car is seen in episodes 1, 11, 12, 14, 20, 26, 28 and 39.
* Lineart
http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _251lo.jpg

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