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Children of Men

Post by Charismatic Enigma » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:21 pm

Who here plans to go see the movie Children of Men? For those who don't know the premise, I quote:

"A futuristic society faces extinction when no children are born and the human race has lost the ability to reproduce. England has descended into chaos, until an iron-handed warden is brought in to institute martial law. The warden's ability to keep order is threatened when a woman finds that she is pregnant with what would be the first child born in 27 years. "

I'd like to go see it because the story sounds very intriguing. Anyone else?
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Post by Fritz Ashlyn » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:12 pm

The novel it's based on, The Children of Men (by P.D. James) is a great read. This is one of those hidden gems of a novel that I thought would never make it to the big screen. I'm looking forward to it, even though most book to movie adaptations are a bit of a letdown.
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Post by Ziryab » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:10 pm

So it's a book (first) then?

*heavy sigh*

I checked and its not showing anywhere near me. Which explains why I haven't seen an ad for it.

*types book name and author on book list*

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Post by solid snake » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:18 pm

I'm probably going to see it. Looks pretty dark but also really good.
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Post by solid snake » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:37 am

Sorry for the double post, but I just saw this movie today and it was pretty good. Very dark and sad, but a good flick overall.
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Post by lalahsghost » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:48 pm

Children of Men is a movie that just came out on dvd, based on a book published in 1992, by PD James. Clive Owen and Julianne Moore are a few of the big named actors in this flick. Directed by Alfonso Cuarón, of Minority Report and Harry Potter: Prizoner of Azkaban [sic].

The movie is set in London in the year 2027, and as much as the DVD release ad may claim "It's the blade runner of this decade", well, it doesn't have that cyberpunk aspect, but is truly a dystopic, militaristic setting. In the movie, it has been eighteen years since any woman on earth has given childbirth. Luckily, Clive Owen is here to change things! No, he's not doing a porn, He's been hired to protect/escort Kee, the first woman pregnant since then. Action pursues, with a rich/beautiful scenescape and cinematography. The movie itself becomes sort of mudded out by such wonderful scenes and lighting, that most of it goes unappreciated due to it's believability and continuity. A second run through this film is ultilmately needed to catch all of the action and time put into it.

There is an insane amount of complaceny and despair within this somewhat futuristic world (2027). Commercials providing answers like happiness in a pill called "Bliss," or suicide in a drug called "Quietus." ("You decide when," says the commercial.) and ads run with doomsday declarations: "Infertility is God's judgment!" "Last one to die, turn out the lights."

Lets not forget the human rights activists called "the Fishes," and Theo's ex-wife Julian is a major player in their conspiracies. Julian explains to Theo that he's their only hope. Kee (The KEY, anyone???) must be delivered safely into the hands of the "Human Project", a secret society of the world's best minds. And Theo is the only one who can help her get past security checkpoints.

There is a sensory plethora in this movie. Once it starts, it doesn't stop. The constant sound and fury makes it difficult to think through all of the questions that Children of Men raises. But the sensory experience will be rewarding to many all by itself. Many scenes of real-world chaos may intrigue people who have enjoyed V For Vendetta, or other dystopian features.

As from my eyes, there is very little CGI, or atleast noticable CGI in this film. The sets will blow you away. In one article I read, it said "Stanley Kubrick would drop to his knees".

Michael Caine, is the loveably awesome, pot smoking rebel son-of-a-gun senior, named Jasper. Playing a minor role in this movie, he is still able to spat out some of the most interesting one liners ever.

While the movie only makes references to the story of Jesus' birth, it conveys more powerfully than anything on film the darkness, damage, and despair of the world into which the child is born into. And as Theo and Kee flee their pursuers and flee through the chaos, they make me reflect historically, on what Joseph and Mary may have risked. *note, trying to stay away from the themes of religion*

The technical mastery and the spiritual themes really become something bigger than itself. As they struggle across a battlefield, Theo and Kee come to realize just how much their hidden treasure means to the world. Thus, the overwhelming sensory experience of the movie is not wasted. The movie really says it's not dark yet, but it's getting there, and by reflecting so much darkness, it allows a beacon of hope to shine even more. This brings me to a question; is Children of Men a pessimistic view of the future, or a hopeful one?

Okay, if you've seen the movie, answer these:
  • 1.)When armed men come to Jasper's house, Jasper had to make some quick decisions. Do you think he made the right decisions involving his wife and pet?
  • 2.) Can anyone remember the soundtrack to this? I know Jasper played some wicked tunes, but other than that, was there any memorable music, or did it just blend in and fade in your brain?
  • 3.) People seem to be split either way about this movie, either glorifying it, or saying it is shallow, and oddly paced, what do you think? I personally say it is a major breath of fresh air compared to movies like White Chicks or the most recent horror films that are being pumped out week after week, with little or no plot. On the other hand, if wanting a sci-fi when expecting something along the lines of Blade-Runner, due to the commercials, being placed 20 years ahead in the future, or the cliche'd word dystopic being used, you're probably gonna have a slight saccharine taste at the end. There's no spinners or laser weapons, only a few fancy computer screens, and gaming system used by some crazy teenager. - What would you classify this movie as?
  • 4.) The movie also leaves tons of questions open to speculation. Cuaron stated himself that he left these open to let the viewer see this movie as dark, or optimistic as one wants it to be... I can see why he says this, but is it really a good answer to explain any loose ties that might be in the film?
  • 5.) Anyone read the original book, and how does the movie hold up to it?
  • 6.) One of the most amazing scenes in this movie is shot in very few different camera shots. It's like three minutes long or so at it's longest stretch. What am I talking about? The car chase scene at the Fishes camp. And the damn cars weren't even on! it was so real feeling due to the long shots, and just really looked like they were really enjoying the acting being done, Except Owen, pushing the damned vehicle.
  • 7.) Talking about Owen, do you think he did a good job with this part? Some claim that he hasn't yet had an opportunity to show his acting ability. There are a few times in this movie that have major emotions, but all-in-all, was this movie proof for Owen's talents, or lack thereof?
As politically charged as this movie was (and the slight religious spins), you can see that I tried to stay away from it as much as possible. Try to do the same.P.S. I'm gonna be doing a blade runner minireview and questionnaire soon, so if you attempt to do it before me, I'll stab you! j/k~

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Melchior wrote:Lol, I think you mean Clive Owen, not Owen Wilson. Anyway, I've seen it, and thought it was interesting. Theres some pretty strong political connotations in it,although I'm not sure how much I can elaborate on without breaking forum rules.
wonton bob wrote:I didn't really get the religion thing people keep throwing in. Kee wasn't a virgin. I blame Starbucks for making people infertile :wink: and I assume that the whole clone thing didnt work out and that the US and most other countries were wiped out in some sort of nuclear war.

1.No. but he knew his wife would have held them back besides I don't think they would have survived the refugee camp action. I assume he gave his wife the escape "Quietus" pill. Either way he knew his end was coming soon.

2.no. other than Jasper's I can't remember any of it.

3.Industrial/apocalyptic pretty much how I see the world really ending.

4.yes but it depends on what type of person you are. I see hope in the mist of darkness.

5. no.

7.he did good with a character that saw no hope in himself or man. but I think he can do better. he's improve since Sin City.
mcred23 wrote:Ya know Lalah, we already had a thread on the subject of this movie. 8)
solid snake wrote:I thought this was an excellent movie. Definitely dark and dystopian, but very well done with action sequences to rival Saving Private Ryan.

1. Yes. I'm sure the Fishes wouldn't have hesitated to torture them to get Jasper to talk.

2. Don't really remember it, just know it was loud.

3. I would call it sci-fi. True it doesn't have lasers or flying cars, but I think there's enough stuff in there to call it sci-fi.

4. I guess. I try not to over-analyze stuff I watch, but overall I would say it was dark with a possibly optimistic ending.

5. I have not read the book.

6. I thought the battle scene was more impressive.

7. I though he was good in his role, though I'm hardly one to judge.
lalahsghost wrote:Oh lordy, I've broken one of my own rules :o
Eh, it was crazy for me to do it this way, but THERE WAS a previous thread, and I didn't go back four pages.

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