The fate of Efreet units
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False Prophet
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The fate of Efreet units
The Efreet was always its own thing, but for a limited-production MS it had quite an impressive. Of the eight units produced, three were modelled into the Efreet Custom, the Efreet Natch, and the Efreet Schneid respectively. But what about the five other units? Do we have any idea where were they during and after OYW from supplementary materials?
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Gelgoog Jager
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Re: The fate of Efreet units
Well, the very first Efreets we ever heard of was a standard model operated by Henry Boone, in the Gundam Cross Dimension 0079 SNES game. It was equipped with a shotgun & heat katana.
Furthermore, the unit that would eventually become the Efreet Schenid was originally just a standard Efreet during the OYW, using the same color scheme as the Efreet Schneid, but equipped with a Heat Lancer and a wrist mounted machine gun like the one used by the Gouf Custom. It’s pilot wasn’t soug Schneid during the OYW as per the events of Gundam Side Stories, a PS3 game.
Anyway, the short story is that Doug became the rival of EF Ace Fred Reber, pilot of a Pixie Gundam. However, in the end Rbee defects to Zeon after befriending Doug. Unfortunately Doug dies (the wikia claims that it was due to illness), but Reber inherits his MS, modifies it for his fighting style with dual daggers and renames it in honor of his friend and rival.
Furthermore, the unit that would eventually become the Efreet Schenid was originally just a standard Efreet during the OYW, using the same color scheme as the Efreet Schneid, but equipped with a Heat Lancer and a wrist mounted machine gun like the one used by the Gouf Custom. It’s pilot wasn’t soug Schneid during the OYW as per the events of Gundam Side Stories, a PS3 game.
Anyway, the short story is that Doug became the rival of EF Ace Fred Reber, pilot of a Pixie Gundam. However, in the end Rbee defects to Zeon after befriending Doug. Unfortunately Doug dies (the wikia claims that it was due to illness), but Reber inherits his MS, modifies it for his fighting style with dual daggers and renames it in honor of his friend and rival.
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False Prophet
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Re: The fate of Efreet units
The story of the Schenid fascinates me in one thing: How could they have kept the machine running after all this time? The Zeon remnants on Earth already have got it hard enough, and the Elfreet itself is an extremely rare machines. Where did they get replacement parts?Gelgoog Jager wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:48 am Well, the very first Efreets we ever heard of was a standard model operated by Henry Boone, in the Gundam Cross Dimension 0079 SNES game. It was equipped with a shotgun & heat katana.
Furthermore, the unit that would eventually become the Efreet Schenid was originally just a standard Efreet during the OYW, using the same color scheme as the Efreet Schneid, but equipped with a Heat Lancer and a wrist mounted machine gun like the one used by the Gouf Custom. It’s pilot wasn’t soug Schneid during the OYW as per the events of Gundam Side Stories, a PS3 game.
Anyway, the short story is that Doug became the rival of EF Ace Fred Reber, pilot of a Pixie Gundam. However, in the end Rbee defects to Zeon after befriending Doug. Unfortunately Doug dies (the wikia claims that it was due to illness), but Reber inherits his MS, modifies it for his fighting style with dual daggers and renames it in honor of his friend and rival.
MSV-R did touched on this topic a bit in a way, if my memory serves me right: Uma Lightning customized his MS-14B not only to keep up with newer MS, but also because it was easier to procure parts from the E.F.F. with his cover.
(And if we still takes Kondo's manga as canon, Haman Karn did gave some supplies to the Zeon Remnants on Earth.)
Then again, Zeon was able to build the Shamblo on Earth, so everything goes...
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Gelgoog Jager
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Re: The fate of Efreet units
I want to point out that the Efreet Schneid is the “least upgraded” of the Efreet variants, it’s only new parts being the head shoulder armor, the later which is a spikeless version of the Efreet Custom’s. All 3 Efreet variants have larger heads than the base Efreet... which is actually considering that at first the larger head of the Efreet Custom was attributed to being where the EXAM system itself is located, though personally I always suspected that large protrusion on its backpack, unique to that variant.
The Schneid’s other changes are simply adaptations to fit more heat darts.
As for how it actually managed to be kept functional, the same question could pretty much be asked for many other OYW Zeon units still active by 0096.
In the case of Zaku-based machines, one common assumption is that the Zaku (and in some cases most Zeon MS) are supposedly easy to repair and maintain. While the Efreet is not simply a Zaku variant, it’s toll heavily based on the zaku and I could easily imagine that it’s arms or legs could potentially be replaced with those from a Zaku or Gouf (though such change could result in a reduction of combat performance). Supposedly such traits would be one of the reasons the EF pushed ahead the development of the Hizack, which in theory was produced by the EF in captured Zaku production lines.
This takes me to another to another point: by U.C. 0087 the EF has been producing additional units of some MS that saw very limited production, such as the MS-07H (4 units) and MS-06K (supposedly 9 units). It’s worth noting that in U.C. 0081 the Efreet Nacho was recapture from a EF base where it had been largely gathering dust, so it’s likely that EF could have kept existing spare parts stored in a similar situation.
But even if we assume that the Efreet has some components that can’t be taken from Zakus and Goufs or which may be gathering dust in some warehouse, there’s might still be ways to get them through AE, which is infamous for providing weapons to both sides of a conflict more than once.
Now, the topic of Haman’s Neo Zeon is more interesting, starting with the fact that the Shamblo was a design from her time. For some context, Haman’s Axis/Neo Zeon was probably the Zeon remnants faction with the most resources at its disposal, going from money (which allows them to give away cases full of gold ingots as if they were candy) to an abundant supply of Gundarium Gamma large enough to use it one every new mass produced MS they came up with. Aside from high cost mass produced MS like the AMX-004G Qubeley and AMX-014 Doven Wolf, official info indicates that the AMX-015 Geymalk and the huge NZ-000 Quin Mantha were both classified as mass production machines.
Unfortunately Haman did had major problems in other areas, namely human resources, particularly a lack of skilled pilots, which was evident even during the Gryps War, and a lack of newtypes. The later may explain how Glemy Toto could have have risen so fast through the ranks by presenting Haman not one, but two cyber-newtypes.
Personally I suspect Axis/Neo Zeon might have mass produced the AMX-004 Qubeley early on, but simply lacked newtypes that could pilot them... until Glemy revealed his newtype army, had them undusted & slightly upgraded them.
The Schneid’s other changes are simply adaptations to fit more heat darts.
As for how it actually managed to be kept functional, the same question could pretty much be asked for many other OYW Zeon units still active by 0096.
In the case of Zaku-based machines, one common assumption is that the Zaku (and in some cases most Zeon MS) are supposedly easy to repair and maintain. While the Efreet is not simply a Zaku variant, it’s toll heavily based on the zaku and I could easily imagine that it’s arms or legs could potentially be replaced with those from a Zaku or Gouf (though such change could result in a reduction of combat performance). Supposedly such traits would be one of the reasons the EF pushed ahead the development of the Hizack, which in theory was produced by the EF in captured Zaku production lines.
This takes me to another to another point: by U.C. 0087 the EF has been producing additional units of some MS that saw very limited production, such as the MS-07H (4 units) and MS-06K (supposedly 9 units). It’s worth noting that in U.C. 0081 the Efreet Nacho was recapture from a EF base where it had been largely gathering dust, so it’s likely that EF could have kept existing spare parts stored in a similar situation.
But even if we assume that the Efreet has some components that can’t be taken from Zakus and Goufs or which may be gathering dust in some warehouse, there’s might still be ways to get them through AE, which is infamous for providing weapons to both sides of a conflict more than once.
Now, the topic of Haman’s Neo Zeon is more interesting, starting with the fact that the Shamblo was a design from her time. For some context, Haman’s Axis/Neo Zeon was probably the Zeon remnants faction with the most resources at its disposal, going from money (which allows them to give away cases full of gold ingots as if they were candy) to an abundant supply of Gundarium Gamma large enough to use it one every new mass produced MS they came up with. Aside from high cost mass produced MS like the AMX-004G Qubeley and AMX-014 Doven Wolf, official info indicates that the AMX-015 Geymalk and the huge NZ-000 Quin Mantha were both classified as mass production machines.
Unfortunately Haman did had major problems in other areas, namely human resources, particularly a lack of skilled pilots, which was evident even during the Gryps War, and a lack of newtypes. The later may explain how Glemy Toto could have have risen so fast through the ranks by presenting Haman not one, but two cyber-newtypes.
Personally I suspect Axis/Neo Zeon might have mass produced the AMX-004 Qubeley early on, but simply lacked newtypes that could pilot them... until Glemy revealed his newtype army, had them undusted & slightly upgraded them.