Strength At A Baoa Qu

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Strength At A Baoa Qu

Post by abaoaqu » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:50 pm

Do we have an idea of what the battle strength of Zeon and the EFSF was around the time of the siege of A Baoa Qu? The engagement was the most interesting one for me in regard to the One Year War, and I'm trying to garner as much information as I can on the fates of the capital ships and the major pilots and mobile suits. This is what my research yielded as of this point in time:

EFSF

Capital Ships

Pegasus-class carrier White Base: initial gather point for the remains of the Revil fleet; sunk.
Magellan-class battleship Luzal: flagship for the surviving forces prior to the engagement; fate unknown.
Magellan-class battleship Hyperion: supposedly crashed into the station shortly after the murder of Generalissimo Gihren(?).
Salamis-class cruiser Saffron: participated in the siege; fate unknown.
Salamis-class cruiser Cisco: damaged by the Solar Ray; participated in the siege; fate unknown.

Major Mobile Weapons

RX-77-2 Guncannon C-108: piloted by Kai Shiden; sunk while covering a beached White Base; pilot survives.
RX-77-2 Guncannon C-109: piloted by Hayato Kobayashi; sunk while covering a grounded White Base; pilot survives. (He is flying the RX-75-4 Guntank in the TV version, rather than a separate Guncannon.)
RX-78-2 Gundam: piloted by Amuro Ray, "the White Devil"; sunk in combat with Char Aznable, "the Red Comet"; pilot survives.


Zeon

Capital ships

Dolos-class supercarrier Dolos: sunk shortly after Gihren's murder.
Dolos-class supercarrier Dolowa: mothership of Anavel Gato, the Nightmare of Solomon; sunk.
Gwazine-class battleship Gwaden: commanded by Admiral Aiguille Delaz; fled the field after the assassination of Gihren.
Zanzibar-class mobile cruiser Chimera: Kycilia Zabi, commissar of the Mobile Assault Force, attempts to flee aboard her; Char Aznable's assassination damages the bridge and a Salamis finishes the job before the ship can leave the dock.
Musai-class light cruiser(?) Sneakel: implied to have been sunk as the Federation remnants landed on the surface of A Baoa Qu.
Supply ship Jotunheim: commanded by Capt. Martin Prochnow; escapes after the siege.

Major Mobile Weapons

MA-05AD Big Rang: piloted by Lt. Oliver May; sunk as the EFSF overruns the station; pilot survives.
MS-14A Gelgoog: piloted by Lt. Cmdr. Anavel Gato, "the Nightmare of Solomon"; pilot and MS survive.
MS-14B Gelgoog High-Mobility Type: piloted by Maj. Johnny Ridden, "Crimson Lightning"; pilot MIA.
MS-14B Gelgoog High-Mobility Type: piloted by Lt. Cmdr. Erik Blanke; damaged by the RX-78-2 Gundam; pilot survives.
MS-14C Gelgoog Cannon: piloted by 1st Lt. Thomas Kurtz; sunk; pilot KIA.
MSN-02 Zeong: piloted by Capt. Char Aznable, "the Red Comet"; sunk in combat with the RX-78-2 Gundam; pilot survives.

Et cetera

A Baoa Qu: part of Zeon's last line of defense; surrendered to the Federation on December 31, 0079.



Further information on ships and units, if any, would be much obliged. Had the Library of Londonion not gone offline, I could have gained a little more accuracy. I do recall it saying something about a Federation ship having to be self-destructed in order to make a clearing in the enemy line, but not the exact wording.

This list will be subject to revision upon input.
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Re: Strength At A Baoa Qu

Post by abaoaqu » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:50 pm

CURRENT UPDATE
7:50PM
11/8/2015

EFSF

Capital Ships

Pegasus-class carrier White Base: initial gather point for the remains of the Revil fleet; sunk.
Magellan-class battleship Hyperion: slammed into the station shortly after the murder of Generalissimo Gihren.
Magellan-class battleship Luzal: flagship for the surviving forces prior to the engagement; sunk by the MSN-02 Zeong.
Magellan-class battleship Tartar: participated in the siege; fate unknown.
Salamis-class cruiser Saffron: participated in the siege; fate unknown.
Salamis-class cruiser Cisco: damaged by the Solar Ray; participated in the siege; fate unknown.

Major Mobile Weapons

RX-77-2 Guncannon C-108: piloted by Kai Shiden; sunk while covering a beached White Base; pilot survives.
RX-77-2 Guncannon C-109: piloted by Hayato Kobayashi; sunk while covering a grounded White Base; pilot survives. (He is flying the RX-75-4 Guntank in the TV version, rather than a separate Guncannon.)
RX-78-2 Gundam: piloted by Amuro Ray, "the White Devil"; sunk in combat with Char Aznable, "the Red Comet"; pilot survives.


Zeon

Capital ships

Dolos-class supercarrier Dolos: sunk shortly after Gihren's murder.
Dolos-class supercarrier Dolowa: mothership of Anavel Gato, the Nightmare of Solomon; sunk.
Gwazine-class battleship Gwaden: commanded by Admiral Aiguille Delaz; fled the field after the assassination of Gihren.
Zanzibar-class mobile cruiser Chimera: Kycilia Zabi, commissar of the Mobile Assault Force, attempts to flee aboard her; Char Aznable's assassination damages the bridge and a Salamis finishes the job before the ship can leave the dock.
Musai-class light cruiser(?) Sneakel: implied to have been sunk as the Federation remnants landed on the surface of A Baoa Qu.
Supply ship Jotunheim: commanded by Capt. Martin Prochnow; escapes after the siege.

Major Mobile Weapons

MA-05AD Big Rang: piloted by Lt. Oliver May; sunk as the EFSF overruns the station; pilot survives.
MS-14A Gelgoog: piloted by Lt. Cmdr. Anavel Gato, "the Nightmare of Solomon"; pilot and MS survive.
MS-14B Gelgoog High-Mobility Type: piloted by Maj. Johnny Ridden, "Crimson Lightning"; pilot MIA.
MS-14B Gelgoog High-Mobility Type: piloted by Lt. Cmdr. Erik Blanke; damaged by the RX-78-2 Gundam; pilot survives.
MS-14C Gelgoog Cannon: piloted by 1st Lt. Thomas Kurtz; sunk; pilot KIA.
MSN-02 Zeong: piloted by Capt. Char Aznable, "the Red Comet"; sunk in combat with the RX-78-2 Gundam; pilot survives.

Et cetera

A Baoa Qu: part of Zeon's last line of defense; surrendered to the Federation on December 31, 0079.

Bigro's were present, but were Zwarls (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/fukuchi/zwarl.htm) ?

Further information on ships and units, if any, would be much obliged. Had the Library of Londonion not gone offline, I could have gained a little more accuracy. I do recall it saying something about a Federation ship having to be self-destructed in order to make a clearing in the enemy line, but not the exact wording.

This list will be subject to revision upon input.
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Re: Strength At A Baoa Qu

Post by MythSearcher » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:00 am

Sigh, I have written, in Chinese, an estimated strength of ABQ from Gundam Officials and MS Igloo sources.
http://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.ph ... id=3103317

Hope Google translate can help you enough.
Need to wait until weekend before I can do it myself.

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Re: Strength At A Baoa Qu

Post by abaoaqu » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:30 am

MythSearcher wrote:Sigh, I have written, in Chinese, an estimated strength of ABQ from Gundam Officials and MS Igloo sources.
http://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.ph ... id=3103317

Hope Google translate can help you enough.
Need to wait until weekend before I can do it myself.
Thank you. I'm sorry if I sounded like an idiot.
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Re: Strength At A Baoa Qu

Post by MythSearcher » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:38 am

abaoaqu wrote:
Thank you. I'm sorry if I sounded like an idiot.
No, its just me that should have translated it long ago, but didn't.

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Re: Strength At A Baoa Qu

Post by Deacon Blues » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:22 pm

I translated this quite a while ago for a UC Data dump thread. Mind you, this is in no way official since it compiles quite a few sidestory material sources:

BATTLESHIPS, MS & MA GROUPS DURING THE BATTLE OF A BAOA QU

[N-FIELD]

BATTLESHIPS
  • Dolos-class (Dolos)
    Gwazine-class x numerous ships
    Chibe-class x numerous ships
    Zanzibar-class (Chimaira)
    Musai-class x numerous ships
    Papua-class x numerous ships
    Pazock-class x numerous ships
MS & MA GROUPS

BULST COMPANY
  • MA-05 Bigro Kai (Lt. Commander Bulst, Henkener)
    MS-14A Gelgoog (Lt. Commander Bulst)
    MS-06F Zaku II (Mash)
    MS-06F Zaku II (Phymer)
    MS-06F Zaku II x numerous units
CHIMAIRA CORPS
  • MS-14B High Mobility Type Gelgoog (Lt. Commander Johnny Ridden)
    MS-14C Gelgoog Cannon (Lieutenant Junior Grade Thomas Kurtz)
    MS-06R-2 Full Bullet Zaku (Lt. Commander Johnny Ridden)
    MS-06F Zaku II (Brooks)
    MS-06F Zaku II (Manson)
    MS-09R Rick Dom x numerous units
    MS-14B High Mobility Type Gelgoog x numerous units
    MS-14B High Mobility Type Gelgoog R x 1
    MS-14C Gelgoog Cannon x numerous units
    MS-14C-1A Gelgoog Cannon Kai
INFANTRY DIVISION 1st BATALLION B COMPANY
  • MS-14A Gelgoog No. 105 (Petty Officer 1st Class Frederik Brown)
    MS-14A Gelgoog (Naumann)
    MS-14A Gelgoog x numerous units
    Unknown Unit (Bam Yan)
    Unknown Unit (Russ Kowalsky)
OTHERS
  • MS-14A Gelgoog (Petty Officer First Class Jake Gunns)
    MS-14A Gelgoog (Commander Zack Winzer
    MS-05 Bigro (Lieutenant JG Glenys Escott)
OTHERS (PILOT UNKNOWN)
  • MA-05 Bigro x 4
    MSN-01 Psycommu System High Mobility Prototype
    MS-14A Gelgoog x numerous units
    MS-09R Rick Dom x numerous units
    MS-06F Zaku II x numerous units
    MS-06F Zaku II Minelayer x numerous units
    MS-09R Rick Dom RS Type
OTHER MECHA
  • Gattle
    Jicco
[W-FIELD]

BATTLESHIPS
  • Gwazine-class (Asarum)
MS,MA GROUPS
OTHERS
  • MS-14B High Mobility Type Gelgoog (Captain Char Aznable)
    YMS-15 Gyan (Captain M'Quve)
OTHERS (PILOT UNKNOWN)
  • MS-14A Gelgoog x numerous units
    MS-09R Rick Dom x numerous units
    MS-06F Zaku II x numerous units
[E-FIELD]

BATTLESHIPS
  • Chibe-class x numerous ships
    Musai-class (Kempten)
    Musai-class x numerous ships
    Papua-class x numerous ships
    Pazock-class x numerous ships (Jotunheim)
MS & MA GROUPS

KUSPEN COMBAT BATTALION
  • MS-14 Gelgoog (Captain Herbert Von Kuspen)
    MA-05Ad Big Rang (Technical Lieutenant JG Oliver May)
    EMS-10 Zudah Unit 2 (Lieutenant JG Hideto Washiya)
    EMS-10 Zudah Spare Unit (Special Ops Lieutenant Monique Cadillac*)
    MP-02A Oggo (Senior Warrant Officer Frederich Jahnn)
    MP-02A Oggo (Chief Petty Officer Hermamm Eckert)
    MP-02A Oggo (Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class Emile Fraurin)
    MP-02A Oggo (Petty Officer 2nd Class Franz Brandt)
    MP-02A Oggo (Petty Officer 2nd Class Joseph Dewey)
    MP-02A Oggo x 27 units

E-FIELD AIR DEFENSE BATTALION
  • MS-06R-1A Zaku II R1A Type (Lieutenant JG Masaya Nakagawa)
OTHERS (PILOT UNKNOWN)
  • MS-14A Gelgoog x numerous units
    MS-09R Rick Dom x numerous units
    MS-06F Zaku II x numerous units
[S-FIELD]

BATTLESHIPS
  • Dolos-class (Dorowa)
    Gwazine-class (Gwaden)
    Chibe-class (Tchouhov)
    Chibe-class x numerous ships
    Musai-class (Nordhausen)
    Musai-class x numerous ships
    Papua-class x numerous ships
    Pazock-class x numerous ships
MS & MA GROUPS

300th INDEPENDENT SQUAD
  • MSN-02 Zeong (Captain Char Aznable)
MEDUSA SQUAD
  • MA-04 Zakrello
34th MOBILE SUIT SQUAD
  • MS-09R Rick Dom x several units
    MS-06F Zaku II x several units
302nd PATROL COMPANY
  • MS-14A Gelgoog (Lieutenant Anavel Gato)
    MS-14A Gelgoog (Dhalsim)
    MS-09R Rick Dom (Petty Officer 1st Class Karius)
    MS-09R Rick Dom (Guns)
    MS-06F Zaku II (Seaman 2nd Class John Bisty)
MOBILE ASSAULT FORCES 13th INDEPENDANT COMPANY "DRAGOON 13"
  • MS-14D(01) Gelgoog (Commander Russ Hannibal)
    MS-06-R-1D Zaku II R1D Type (Lieutenant JG Degner Romeo)
    MS-06F Zaku II (Chief Petty Officer 1st Class Cutlass)
SNEGLE CORPS

ERIK COMPANY
  • MS-14B High Mobility Gelgoog (Lieutenant Commander Erik Blanke)
    MS-06F Zaku II (Christo Doerr)
    MS-06F Zaku II x numerous units
224th MS TEAM
  • MS-14A Gelgoog (Cobald Stolts)
    MS-14A Gelgoog (Albert Belle)
NILS TEAM
  • MS-05A Zaku I (Chief Petty Officer 1st Class Nils Theorell)
    MS-06F Zaku Minelayer (Petty Officer 2nd Class Arthur)
    Gattle (Superior Seaman Tamil)
    Gattle (Superior Seaman Kamil)
OTHERS (PILOT UNKNOWN)
  • MS-06E-3 Zaku Reconnaissance E3 Type <unconfirmed>
    MA-05 Bigro
    MS-14A Gelgoog x numerous units
    MS-09R Rick Dom x numerous units
    MS-06F Zaku II x numerous units
    MS-06F Zaku II (commanding officer use)
    MS-05 Zaku I
UNKNOWN AFFILIATION

Chibe-class (Yggdrasill)

KILLMAYER CORPS
  • MS-14A Gelgoog (Lieutenant Herman Killmayer)
    MS-09R Rick Dom (Lieutenant Gabriel Zola)
    MS-06Z Psycommu System Prototype Zaku Unit 2
    MS-06Z Psycommu System Prototype Zaku Unit 3 (Yahagi Franziback)
    MS-06R-1A Zaku II R1A Type (Commander Erick Mansfield)
    MS-19 Dolmel (Ensign Ramuiko Stein)
* (They list her rank incorrectly as Lt. JG)
** I think whoever made this list got a little confused. The Nordhausen wasn't in S-Field in MS IGLOO :P

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Re: Strength At A Baoa Qu

Post by Gelgoog Jager » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:28 am

abaoaqu wrote: Zanzibar-class mobile cruiser Chimera: Kycilia Zabi, commissar of the Mobile Assault Force, attempts to flee aboard her; Char Aznable's assassination damages the bridge and a Salamis finishes the job before the ship can leave the dock.
According to MSV-R, the Chimaira underwent the additional hangar refit seen on MSV-R, and supposedly it was escorting the Minaret out of A Baoa Qu by the time the war ended, therefore it is not the ship that Kycillia tried to use to escape A Baoa Qu.

Gundam Side Stories (PS3) puts 5 members of the Marchosias team at A Baoa Qu, which include 2x MS-06F, 1x MS-09R2 (Guy Helmuth's unit) with a Giant Heat Sword, 1x MS-06Z (Annerose Rosenheim's unit) and 1x MS-14BR (Vincet Gleissner's unit). One of the MS-06F is killed by amuro Ray while defending the MS-06Z from him. The other MS-06F and the MS-09R2 are destroyed (and their pilots killed) in their last attempt to defeat the RX-80PR/S. The MS-06Z is damaged and its pilot goes MIA, and only Vincent and his Gelgoog are seen afterwards when he opens the cockpit of the RX-80PR/S.

From the 0081 we can observe 1x RGM-79GS, 1x MS-14C in standard colors, as well as the infamous C-203 Guncannon which IIRC was supposed the third Guncannon on board White Base. There are a couple Rick Doms which might be implied to be MS-09RS (either one or both), since the wreckage of the first had a beam bazooka floating next to it and the second unit grabbed said weapon and began using it right away. We also see at least 3x MA-05 destroying a fleet of Salamis and Columbus ships in the middle of resupply operations.

According to MSV-R, 3x MA-05R and 1x MAN-00X-2 also particiapted in the battle, while the profile fo the MS-05Q says that less than 30 MS-05B units were converted into types by the end of the war. 3x MS-14BR (including Vincent's unit and 2 units belonging to the Chimaira Corps) and an unknown number of MS-14C-1A (including one units belonging to Jacbious Node) also participated in the battle and were known as the A Baoa Qu Battle Types. Finally, Kycillia also brought 2x YMS-15E units with her.

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Re: Strength At A Baoa Qu

Post by Gelgoog Jager » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:29 pm

Here's the link to the archived Library Of Londonion site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20080109083 ... _ship.html

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