Henyo wrote:what about the Macross Class ships then?
Y'know... we don't have an answer for that one.
In fact, in Macross
works to date we've never had a mention of a Macross-type ship being retired from service due to its age. The original SDF-1 Macross
was retired from service for principally symbolic reasons, and that it was a good deal more economical to build new ones, and became the New Unification Armed Forces HQ (essentially, the UN Forces' equivalent of the Pentagon). Of the twelve "mass-produced" Macross
-class ships* constructed in the first few years after the First Space War, only four have been named. The SDFN-1 General (Takashi) Hayase
hasn't got any history attached (we literally only know its name), the SDFN-4 General Bruno J. Global
was lost in action while on assignment to the 117th Research Fleet in 2048 (and the wreck subsequently destroyed in 2059), while the SDFN-8 General Vrlitwhai Kridanik
and an unnamed SDFN were retained by the planetary governments set up by the long-distance emigrant fleets they'd been escorting (on Uroboros and Vivre, respectively). The New Macross
-class of emigrant ships and their Battle
-class supercarriers protectors have a design endurance even longer than average warships (Macross Chronicle
suggests they may be capable of theoretically indefinite operation with adequate maintenance), but the only ones to leave service that we know of have been combat losses. The 35th Long-Distance Emigrant Fleet's three Battle
-class ships were lost on Lux in 2045, the 37th Long-Distance Emigrant Fleet's initial Battle-7
was lost in 2046 on Varauta 3198XE's ice planet (a replacement was later built), the Earth Defense Fleet flagship Macross-13
(not attached to an emigrant fleet) was destroyed in 2051 after being hijacked by a military extremist faction looking to overthrow the UN Government, and of course Battle Galaxy
was punched to bits by Battle Frontier
With appropriate maintenance and upgrades, even the oldest warships in the (New) UN Spacy fleet seem to have an almost indefinite service lifespan. Macross-1
left Earth with ARMD II
-class space carriers in its escort fleet, while the Macross Plus
video game (2040) and the Macross 7 Trash
manga (2046) both showed original ARMD
-class carriers still in service both in the local group and with emigrant fleets, effectively making that a 40 year old class of warships still in frontline service. The gold standard is still the Zentradi Army warships appropriated by the (New) UN Spacy... those classes of ship are half a million years old, and some of the ships themselves are hundreds or even thousands of years old. (What can we say, the Protoculture built to last even if they themselves didn't.)
Henyo wrote:i'm only familiar with the Macross' from the animated works. were there any original ships from the mangas/games? i don't suppose all of them were constructed on Earth?
-class SDFN-8 General Vrlitwhai Kridanik
appears in the PS3 game Macross 30: Voices Across the Galaxy
as "Vrlitwhai City", the apparent planetary capital of Uroboros and the central terrain feature on the Yuria Archipelago worldmap in 2060. Another Macross
-class SDFN (no name given) shows up in similar conditions on Vivre in 2062 in the Macross Delta
prequel manga Macross E
-class NMCV-03 Battle-3
and NMCV-04 Battle-4
's whereabouts are known via the Macross VF-X2
video game, though they do not actually appear, as part of the story. They're on Eden 3 and Sephira respectively, which are worlds the VF-X Ravens visit in the course of the game. Macross-13
is the final boss of the game, but a rebuilt Macross-13
is once more in charge of the Earth defense fleet in 2059 in the Macross Frontier
novels... and commanded by former SDF-1 bridge bunny (now General) Kim Kabirov.
was the setting of the Macross
stage musical Macross the Musiculture
Variable Fighter Master File
mentions a number of other New Macross
-class ships... including Macross Olympia
(developers of the YF-26, and later buyers of the VF-25), Macross Valiant
, is a fleet that encountered a Zentradi main fleet in 2061), Macross Challenger
(which settled planet Carlyss in 2061), Macross Errant
, and Macross Odysseus
. Macross Olympia
also has a Macross Quarter
-class ship named Macross One-Third
was the setting for the radio play Macross Generation
Reportedly, something like half of the New Macross
-class ships were built in orbit of Eden, though all of the 12 Macross
-class SDFNs and the majority of the New Macross
-class ships were built in orbit of Earth.
[...] also, anyone weirded out by how the Elysion docked with that Island Colony in episode 15? or is it just me always having my mind in the gutter?
All told, from the Facebook groups and message boards I'm on... people who DIDN'T look at that and see something potentially lewd are very much in the minority.