The Official Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans Mecha Thread Mk I

[Dark Duel]

Very big, high-mass mêlée weapons - large hammers, maces, that sort of thing - so far is the only thing that's been consistently shown to be effective in smashing through nano laminate armor.

[balofo]

https://i.imgur.com/LsZYep7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XtngMEk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SA7eH4e.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3qPHtwo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f5f5BrN.jpg

-Meteor Model? (Graze Kai Two): now has Alaya Vijnana System and uses Teiwaz tech, completely red, has Hyakuren's rear skirt in addition to Hyakuren's shoulder with round verniers and a larger antenna. Carries a short barrel Graze Rifle.
-Mystery MS: Gundam Frame type, has Gusion's rear armor equipped as its rear skirt. Seems to be a mix of Graze Kai, Barbatos and Gusion parts. Has a new type of long barrel Graze Rifle. No further info yet.
-Ein gets Gaelio's Schwalbe Graze as a hand me down, uses a rifle instead of the lance unit.

Meteor Model and MS B release on 1/28 so they should take a time to appear in the anime.

Oh and GMG Winter confirmed the Earth blocs have no army of their own, so the only factions will be Teiwaz/Tekkadan VS Gjallarhorn unless they introduce more.

The chinese wiki had info on Gusion's 400mm Buster Anchor weapon weeks before Ippei named them on his twitter, this is the same source for the Gusion Rebake name. It also says Gaelio will pilot Kimaris and that Kimaris has a 120mm Cannon weapon. Might be legit.

If Gaelio gets Kimaris then MS D should be Chocolate Man's new ride, a pure new Gjallarhorn prototype.

[kabukigang777]

https://i.imgur.com/LsZYep7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XtngMEk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SA7eH4e.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3qPHtwo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f5f5BrN.jpg

-Meteor Model? (Graze Kai Two): now has Alaya Vijnana System, completely red, has Hyakuren's rear skirt in addition to Hyakuren's shoulder with round verniers and a larger antenna. Carries a short barrel Graze Rifle.
-Mystery MS: Gundam Frame type, has Gusion's rear armor equipped as rear skirt. Seems to be a mix of Graze Kai, Barbatos and Gusion parts. Has long barrel Graze Rifle. No further info yet.
-Ein gets Gaelio's Schwalbe Graze as a hand me down, uses a rifle instead of the lance unit.

Meteor Model and MS B release on 1/28 so they should take a time to appear in the anime.

Oh and GMG Winter confirmed the Earth blocs have no army of their own, so the only factions will be Teiwaz/Tekkadan VS Gjallarhorn unless they introduce more.

The chinese wiki had info on Gusion's 400mm Buster Anchor weapon weeks before Ippei named them on his twitter, this is the same source for the Gusion Rebake name. It also says Gaelio will pilot Kimaris and that Kimaris has a 120mm Cannon weapon. Might be legit.

If Gaelio gets Kimaris then MS D should be Chocolate Man's new ride, a pure new Gjallarhorn prototype.

then my prediction about kimaris pilot is right but sad to see guison being use as spare parts not restoring it so that they can use it

[balofo]

Note that MS B has hardpoints on the elbows and backpack below the thrusters, weapon racks?

If Akihiro gets MS B then Graze Kai Two will go to either Eugene or Norba, most likely.

**Chinese wiki also has info on a ヴァルキュリア・フレーム，VALKYRJA FRAME. Might be the name of MS D's new frame since it fits with Gjallarhorn naming policy.

[MayflyOfSpace]

https://i.imgur.com/LsZYep7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XtngMEk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SA7eH4e.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3qPHtwo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f5f5BrN.jpg

-Meteor Model? (Graze Kai Two): now has Alaya Vijnana System, completely red, has Hyakuren's rear skirt in addition to Hyakuren's shoulder with round verniers and a larger antenna. Carries a short barrel Graze Rifle.
-Mystery MS: Gundam Frame type, has Gusion's rear armor equipped as rear skirt. Seems to be a mix of Graze Kai, Barbatos and Gusion parts. Has long barrel Graze Rifle. No further info yet.
-Ein gets Gaelio's Schwalbe Graze as a hand me down, uses a rifle instead of the lance unit.

Meteor Model and MS B release on 1/28 so they should take a time to appear in the anime.

Oh and GMG Winter confirmed the Earth blocs have no army of their own, so the only factions will be Teiwaz/Tekkadan VS Gjallarhorn unless they introduce more.

The chinese wiki had info on Gusion's 400mm Buster Anchor weapon weeks before Ippei named them on his twitter, this is the same source for the Gusion Rebake name. It also says Gaelio will pilot Kimaris and that Kimaris has a 120mm Cannon weapon. Might be legit.

If Gaelio gets Kimaris then MS D should be Chocolate Man's new ride, a pure new Gjallarhorn prototype.

Looks like a lot of our predictions have been pretty spot on. I do think it's odd that Gaelio would get the Kimaris though, and not Mcgillis, as he seems to be the one they are focusing on more. And actually, that would seem to imply that maybe Ein's story won't be developed as much. Since early on it seemed like maybe he might end up being the antagonistic vengeful Char archetype for this series. I could picture him piloting the new Gjallarhorn MS, but it will probably be one of the two other characters.



In regards to those images though, the more I see of the MS D, the more I absolutely friggin' love it. Graze Meteor, for lack of a better term) is lookin' pretty sweet and I've got to love that goofy angry face painted on the head in the lineart.

The Gusion/Barbatos combo is kind of odd in my opinion. Like, we knew they were going to head down the route of adding the Gusion's parts to the Barbatos, but this seems kind of tacked on and not well thought out. Though it looks like there are lot more changes to it than just adding parts on to the Barbatos, so my bet is that coming up fairly soon, the Barbatos is going to get itself pretty wrecked up (possibly in the final fight with the Gusion, or maybe in the appearance of the Kimaris, who knows.)

And speaking of the Gusion, I fucking love the 1/100's attempt at trying to put the Gundam frame into the kit. It looks so goofy with all the external frame stuff removed. Like somebody got the memo that all gundams in this series share a similar frame a bit too late, and they responded with "Oh crap, uh....here. Let's just put the torso there and pretend that it's not there at all. Perfect."

Though I do guess this also means there is no second form for the Gusion. Oh well. That's what MS-Vs are for.

[MayflyOfSpace]

**Chinese wiki also has info on a ヴァルキュリア・フレーム，VALKYRJA FRAME. Might be the name of MS D's new frame and fits with Gjallarhorn naming policy.

Oh that's just perfect. Since its unveil, I couldn't help but think that had been designed with that exact sort of image in mind. Oh IBO, you are so friggin' great.

[balofo]

Gundam Gusion Rebake final colors?(this sample has the decals applied) http://i.imgur.com/hreZznM.jpg

Valkyrja Frame MS larger image(probably McGillis custom): http://i.imgur.com/3w8ieb8.jpg

Since Norba loves pink(his helmet and MW color) I'd bet on him getting Graze Kai Two. Not to mention Yamagi being infatuated with him.

**Confirmation on Gaelio being the Kimari's pilot: https://i.imgur.com/uCzkAa4.jpg

[Calubin_175]

Gaelio getting Kimaris was obvious due to the colour scheme as well as the Char clone never getting a Gundam face MS.

So what was the Gjallrhorn's MS naming policy again?

That Gushion Rebake does look just like Barbatos with Gusion part, so I was right in thinking that the twitter feed was just to make fans avoid relying on leaks and speculations. If they are avoiding it to be Barbatos, chances are it could be a replica frame of Barbatos with the Gusion parts.

The 1/100 Gusion obviously confirmed earlier that a Gundam frame could not fit inside but may have been modified by pirates to shrink its proportions. So great twist there.

The extra weapons for the 1/100 would be the grenades, but still no axe or chopper?

So with MS ABCD, we've got Graze Kai Ni(Ryuuseigo), Valkyria Frame Type, Gusion Rebake and another Gundam Frame. I would laugh if that Gundam Frame is just a Barbatos replica.

[balofo]

-Gjallrhorn's MS naming policy is based on Norse mythology. Graze was supposed to be Grades according to Mark.
-The 1/100 Gusion does have the grenades as seen here: http://i.imgur.com/HFF5cRl.jpg
-The other weapon might be the Buster Anchor gimmick, but I need to see the full scan first.
-If Teiwaz gets to name Graze Kai Two then its official English name should be Ryuseigo, since they only use japanese names for their MS/support craft.
-MS C could be a new Gundam or a variation of an existing one. It must be pretty spoilerific...

Ebiwaka's design works mook released today, it has at least 2 pages on the Graze/Isaribi. I might get scans later and post them here.

Since we will get a new OP from ep 14 it will certainly have the Rebake, Kimaris, Ryuseigo and maybe the Valkirja in it.

[Calubin_175]

I guess Gusion is still considered as a Gundam frame, as it still retained the twin Ahab reactors, and for some reason the skinny limbs as well.

I think this was a good idea to avoid all ancient Calamity War Gundams being confined to the skinny proportions whilst trying to use the Gundam name for marketing purposes. So better than SEED.

Honestly, the technical difference between Calamity War gundams and other MS in this universe would be the number of Ahab reactors.

I wouldn't be surprised if there will be a modern MS with twin Ahab reactors either with Gundam name/face or not.

[Xenosynth]

After seeing the MS on other sites, my personal theory is that the Gusion/Barbatos/Graze Kai amalgam is Akihiro's machine. Since the Gusion has some Gundam frame parts and since it has been shown that Teiwaz can easily manufacture barbatos outer frame parts, they repair the gusion using barbatos outer frame parts that they manufacture. The head being different is because the gusion modified the Gundam frame head to the point that they just outright replace it with a Graze-Kai-ish head. Graze Kai II is inherited by Norba as per what Balofo was saying.

[SonicSP]

It's called nanolaminate, right? Likely the paint's component will harden in response to physical trauma. Something like crossing between PS and TP armor from Cosmic Era.

Nanodesu, son.

in my view the nanolaminate thing absorbs penetration like bullets right?but what kind of weapon is more effective against this nano thing what i mean better to penetrating bullets?

Melee weapons were mentioned to be effective and nepalm attacks were mentioned to be able to melt them.

[balofo]

Better Ryuseigo lineart: https://i.imgur.com/2yk1Knh.jpg

1/100 Gusion info: https://i.imgur.com/4FbrHxe.jpg
-The Sub machinegun caliber is 90mm, it has a folding stock gimmick
-The bomb weapons are indeed called hand grenades like the Man Rodi's ones.

**All IBO lineart from the new Ebikawa mook!

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jk4pc.jpg
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jkkfe.jpg
http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jkqpt.jpg
http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jk19t.jpg
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jkqhl.jpg
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jk18b.jpg
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jktqr.jpg
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jkduy.jpg

Info from these scans:
-Graze Bazooka's magazine holds 5 rounds
-Graze Rifle uses caseless ammo.

[balofo]

Official site updated with Ryuseigo and Ein's Schwalbe lineart: http://g-tekketsu.com/ms/index.html

Info from this month's HJ:
-Amida's Hyakuren Assault Rifle spec is JEE-205 130mm Assault Rifle. I wonder what weapon is the JEE-204
-Manrodi's confirmed to have 2x head vulcans. As I said before the Sub machinegun's caliber is 90mm
-Isaribi specs: overall length is 300m. Weapons are 5x Main Batteries, 2x Anti-aicraft Guns and 2x Wire Anchors. Didn't mention the 8 Missile Launchers it has at least.

[kabukigang777]

Official site updated with Ryuseigo and Ein's Schwalbe lineart: http://g-tekketsu.com/ms/index.html

Info from this month's HJ:
-Amida's Hyakuren Assault Rifle spec is JEE-205 130mm Assault Rifle. I wonder what weapon is the JEE-204
-Manrodi's confirmed to have 2x head vulcans. As I said before the Sub machinegun's caliber is 90mm
-Isaribi specs: overall length is 300m. Weapons are 5x Main Batteries, 2x Anti-aicraft Guns and 2x Wire Anchors. Didn't mention the 8 Missile Launchers it has at least.

weird no lineart to ms-b

[balofo]

If MS-B isn't spoiled in the new OP from ep 14 onwards then we're gonna wait until the next HJ...

[Calubin_175]

Loving the ship designs.

Space ships resembling a submarine or a fish works better than space boats, but some space boats could operate under atmosphere.

[Outlaw]

Surprised to see that the Graze had clawed feet at some point. I kind of like it for some reason; part of me hopes that maybe it'll show up in a variation or something.

[E08]

**All IBO lineart from the new Ebikawa mook!

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jk4pc.jpg
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jkkfe.jpg
http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jkqpt.jpg
http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jk19t.jpg
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jkqhl.jpg
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jk18b.jpg
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jktqr.jpg
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/a081fa4egw1 ... 1jkduy.jpg

Some things i noted from the scans:
-The caption beside the Graze's frame (3rd link above) noted that it has servomotors instead of the Gundam frame's hydraulic cylinders. Above this is a set of images showing the different ideas for the spherical head sensor, what is interesting is that the last image has a line pointing to the yellow stripe on the chest. The words next to the line indicate the stripe is a ahab thruster/luminescence treatment something…
-The caption beside the Graze's cockpit (5th link above) indicate that Gjallarhorn's MS uses a standard cockpit.
-The bottom image in the Graze Custom page (last link) points out some of the suit's other thrusters. The rectangle block on the side of the shoulder armor (if it is not obvious enough), the hole close to the top edge of the rear shoulder armor (the same applies to the hole on the front shoulder armor i think, but i can't make out the words), and the one large hole on each side of the back thrusters.

[Calubin_175]

I was just wondering whether Ein's Schwabe Graze will be using a shield with different colours since the P-Bandai kit also comes with one in different colours, which may also have shared the same runner as the lance. in the original option set release.