Gundam Wing GOL/FT/MG new stuff THREAD

[AmuroNT1]

I love how AmuroNT1 is defensive of Wing and Try

I don't even know what to say to you anymore. You've openly admitted that you're trolling people like me over the fact that we like things you don't, like how you went into the Try discussion every week and spouted off crap like "LAWL TRAINWRECK WORST GUNDAM EVER". I honestly thought at some point that you respected me, but it's clear now that all you see me as is a source of cheap schadenfreude.

[Gundam420]

...why is anyone surprised at balofo acting like a douchebag?

[balofo]

...why is anyone surprised at balofo acting like a douchebag?

I love you too

Anyway here's the latest FT chapter:

1)MC0022
-Holo Zechs fires the Babel's Zwölf Zwerg at Relena City(the fortress becomes a dodecahedron in this configuration)
-Relena City puts up the most powerful shield on Mars: Ciel Shield
-To no avail since a large part of the city is hit and thousands die
-Noin orders a flying boat carrying 12 Merciless Fairies Spade MS to retaliate but she has no chance against Babel's own army of 700 Virgo IVs
-Just then Quatre appears in the Grand Chariot, he was in a coma due to the Black Wing Zero attack. Catherine still hasn't recovered. He offers help to Noin.
-Noin was just about to send the Fairies when Relena appeared and ordered her to stop fighting. Criying, Relena admits her complete pacifism ideal has just killed thousands of innocents.
-Relena decides to surrender to Lanagrin but Quatre mentions she doesn't have her full memories yet and that could affect the decision she's taking now. Other characters feel betrayed and want to fight.
-Relena howevers wants the dissolution of the Mars Federation for her surrender, Holo Zechs accepts but wants war reparations and a war tribunal to judge her.
-Heero, Relena and Noin travel in the Voyage to sign the treaty inside Babel, Noin is afraid Relena is gonna get a death sentence in the tribunal. If so only Heero will be able to kill her or else PPP will activate killing all the population.
-Heero has just analyzed the true Zechs Archive files and says Relena should do the same to recover her full memories. Relena dons the VR helmet for the sake of mankind.
-Relena needs time to recover her memories meanwhile Heero mentions the events he learned: Van is a Spare and the Nonnenheim Conzern is behind it all. Noin feels disgusted, her mother(Vannozza) fled Mars with her because of her father's abuse. Vannozza was Nonnenheim's second wife, the first had died along Angelina in the bomb attack. Vannoza died during the travel to Earth, there Noin found refuge with old relatives.
2)AC 187
-Noin, Zechs and Erv receives to missions from Ein. These were give by the ZERO System
-1st mission is to stop MO VII from falling into Mars. Zechs and Erv go, Noin doesn't want to return to Mars. The duo doesn't arrive in time and the asteroid falls on Mars causing the beginning of the terraforming of the planet(Nonnenheim was behind the drop, after that he built the Lanagrin Republic in the impact's crater that formed a sea)
-2nd mission is to help with the rebel uprising in the L1 Colony. The rebels only had 5 Tragos(here confirmed to stand for the Capricorn constellation) and Treize made short work of them using Leo IIIs. Once again Noin is Treize's captive, he tries to convince her to return to OZ. In the process Treize received news of Angelina's death and thinks it was his fault. Actually this was an elaborate plan to make Treize not be there during the bombing since his existence was vital to humankind. ZERO made this decision and Ein sorrowfully accepted the death of his true love in exchange of having his son live for the future of mankind. The hospital bombing was a turning point in the lives of 2 individuals: Treize's(his sense of expiation comes from this event) and Dixneuf's(his desire of revenge at any cost was born from this).
3)MC0022
-Noin recovers from the flashback and questions if ZERO is toying with humanity. Heero says not even the Space Heart and ZERO can solve everything, people's action are what matters in the end.
-Heero changes the subject to Noin rejoining OZ, she says she rejoined after the bombing but didn't see Zechs and Erv for 3 years until AC190. Noin watched as Relena experienced the past
4)AC 188, Spring
-L4 Colony, Zechs and Erv had returned from Mars in 200 days long trip. They meet Zayed Winner who managed the long distance travel business when suddenly his 8 years old activated the Sheherazade with no permission. Erv piloted Prometheus to try to stop him but Quatre destroyed the Cross Gatling ending up knocked in the cockpit. Afterwards the 2 MS were safely delivered to the spaceport, Zayed berated Quatre but Zechs intervened.
5)AC 188, Summer
-A young Duo returned to the ruins of the Maxwell Church.
-A few kms from the Church, Ein was in his underground bunker with the ZERO computer when rebels attacked the above Alliance HQ. A shot from a Tragos hit the building causing Ein to be trapped under the debris. ZERO knew but didn't tell him. Ein couldn't do anything besides accepting his death. The computer showed EINSAM in the display. The word means lonely in German but was actually the junction of Ein and SAM. Ein dies happily having saved Treize while the ZERO computer shuts down. ZERO laid dormant in every computer through the internet until it was awakened later. SAM is the prototype ZERO System AI and was last seen in action during AC 197, impeding the activation of the PPP.
6)AC 188, Fall
-L4 Colony: Zechs and Erv had stayed with the Winners until the Barton Foundation instigated rebellions across all colonies. The duo were asked to return to the L1 Colony and join the rebels. Zayed asked them to escort Iria to the L1 Medical Facilities so she could recycle some experiment samples, they comply without knowing this action would forever change their lives.
-L3 Colony, X18999 Colonial Satellite: Quinze leads 8 Tragos to kill Septem against Noin and Treize using Leo IIIs. A young Heero fires a rocket at the command center but Treize takes the hit.
-Odin fails to assassinate Septem and flees. When he's about to detonate the arsenal Dekim appears and shoots him. Heero arrives a few moments later, Odin says he enjoyed being with him before finally dying. Heero takes the switch and completes the mission. Septem activates the weather system to counter the fire. Heero meets Doctor J in the rainy streets. Treize is taken to a hospital where he meets Leia Barton.
7)MC0022
-Heero notices an enemy in the radar, Noins puts the video on the monitor: it's the Prometheus flying while carrying the Cross Gatling. Phobos says he was born a terrorist and is not interested in politics so he won't allow Relena to leave. Phobos prepares to attack.

[Heaven Piercing Man]

Something escapes me. Who are supposed to be the Lanagrins?

[meer campbell]

So the flashbacks are definitely getting closer to the beginning of Wing. The fact that they did Episode Zero is telling. Many people don't want to hear this but this is all saying Wing animation sequel to me. There is no reason to be this thorough if that wasn't the case. There is no point in continuing the novel that gets hate even in Japan if that isn't the case. There is no point in hiding all of the MS if that is the case. Glad to see Merciless Fairies mentioned again. They have cool suits. I really hope in the future the Mars Federation gets something other than Vigro IV as those are boring and they really need some aces.

[balofo]

Something escapes me. Who are supposed to be the Lanagrins?

Lanagrin Republic is the evil state in Mars. Holo Zechs is its leader and wants independence from the Mars Federation

[Wingnut]

-Noin was just about to send the Fairies when Relena appeared and ordered her to stop fighting. Criying, Relena admits her complete pacifism ideal has just killed thousands of innocents.
-Relena decides to surrender to Lanagrin but Quatre mentions she doesn't have her full memories yet and that could affect the decision she's taking now. Other characters feel betrayed and want to fight.

I guess I really shouldn't be surprised that they bring up something that was resolved long ago at the end of Endless Waltz. Really, you can't even remember that you already covered this a long time ago?
Final nail, coffin, etc. Banished for all time, Tomino forbid this even gets close to animated and so forth.

[Amion]

-Noin was just about to send the Fairies when Relena appeared and ordered her to stop fighting. Criying, Relena admits her complete pacifism ideal has just killed thousands of innocents.
-Relena decides to surrender to Lanagrin but Quatre mentions she doesn't have her full memories yet and that could affect the decision she's taking now. Other characters feel betrayed and want to fight.

I guess I really shouldn't be surprised that they bring up something that was resolved long ago at the end of Endless Waltz. Really, you can't even remember that you already covered this a long time ago?
Final nail, coffin, etc. Banished for all time, Tomino forbid this even gets close to animated and so forth.

And so, it being Bandai, we have a 90% chance now that it could very well be animated.

EDIT: I will admit though, this chapter made more sense to me than any of the others so far. It's like the light of coherence is trying to break through at least once before giving up.

[InjuredPelican]

EDIT: I will admit though, this chapter made more sense to me than any of the others so far. It's like the light of coherence is trying to break through at least once before giving up.

Agreed. A little too much info, but it almost all had an actually followable narrative to it.

[ShadowCell]

it is frustrating as hell that they keep darting back and forth between martian goofiness and flashback goofiness

when they do this in the inevitable full-length animation i'll just drink until it's all funny, but in summary form is pretty annoying :c

[Mimeblade]

@AmuroNT1: I like Gundam Wing's plot and characters too, doesn't mean I don't laugh at it's absurdities and flaws, doesn't mean I don't question the choices made... I just don't complain as much when things turn strange. When things turn serious, I can take the plot seriously too (when it makes sense at least).

Take it easy and don't be so sensitive. The mere fact you yourself felt insulted means you take it way too seriously. Don't personalize it.

And even if half of what I said was "wrong" in the last post I made... that's just how people can end up seeing the characters based on impressions alone. I was generalizing and playing up the absurdity anyway, that doesn't mean it's the truth and that's how things really are, just as you say. It just means that people can "see it that way", Frozen Teardrop impressions or not.

I mean, general public consensus thinks Wing is just about a much of Bishounen Pairings.

If they're "way off the mark", at least I can say I tried to understand Gundam Wing.

Just because people don't like what you like or "understand the story" doesn't mean you should let it get to you. Even if people like balofo troll bait, just let it go. He likes his own stuff, but at least he takes the time to share fresh Wing info in this thread for us, so he respects the fandom enough for that at the very least.

Side note: To those people complaining how "this was all explained before / they did this already / this is repetitive"... remember it's called "Endless Waltz" for a reason.

War > Peace > Revolution > War > Peace > Revolution *cue Waltz music*

[Wingnut]

Side note: To those people complaining how "this was all explained before / they did this already / this is repetitive"... remember it's called "Endless Waltz" for a reason.

War > Peace > Revolution > War > Peace > Revolution *cue Waltz music*

Thematically as you portray it, I have no problem with that (See also most of the Universal Century).
However here, the author is LITERALLY repeating himself going back to a previous point in the character's history and acting as if this is the first time they have experienced this event which is obviously not the case. Even outside of Gundam Wing, this is inexcusable.

[Mimeblade]

Assuming that is the case, I doubt they'd be portrayed as such if this DID become an anime sequel, even if it was author oversight. So I would expect plenty of Editing later on if it did happen.

It's not the first time I've seen authors forget their own history/timeline and the sequence of events in terms of canonical storytelling.

I think in terms of: if (at least) two older sources say "this event happened", and one new source says "this event didn't happen that way/this event didn't happen"... I'm not going to fully invest authenticity to the new source, at least until all sources of the story jive with one another.

[balofo]

This month's FT info:
-Marimeia is either a Leia Barton Clone or was born from a Leia Barton Clone.
-There is a Heero clone
-Next month is Snow White VS Prometheus

vol 11 cover will appear around 6/15 and may have the first look on Scheherazade's color

[Strike Zero]

-There is a Heero clone

Absolutely flawless.

[Kuruni]

Which Heero?

Lets call it Attack of the Clones, or should it be Attack on Clones?.

[Mimeblade]

I'm not surprised, given the test tube babies that came from the Winner family.

And since most people think of Heero as the "Big Boss"* of Gundam Wing, it was only a matter of time before they tried to clone him.

*Metal Gear Solid reference.

[Blazer-X]

Well, makes sense. Some of us already thought that Heero (main character) is Heero (politician)'s clone, given how they looked almost the same.

[Mimeblade]

Well, still you do have to make a distinction between Heero (the Politician) and Heero (the Gundam Pilot) because the latter was genetically altered and bred to be a superb soldier.

The question is: Did they clone Heero the Politician or Heero the Soldier? Or perhaps both?

[InjuredPelican]

What I wanna know is will there be a clone army eventually? I guess 00 Gundam already did that though.