The Official Gundam AGE Mecha Thread Third Generation

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Post by Gelgoog Jager » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:31 pm

Can anyone identify the green Vagan MS below the Glud and to the left of the Wiegel in this image?

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/4141/img2 ... 317462.jpg

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Post by balofo » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:51 pm

Gelgoog Jager wrote:Can anyone identify the green Vagan MS below the Glud and to the left of the Wiegel in this image?

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/4141/img2 ... 317462.jpg
Nameless Dorado variant that uses electrical whips, only exist as this single picture

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Post by Gelgoog Jager » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:34 pm

balofo wrote:Nameless Dorado variant that uses electrical whips, only exist as this single picture
Thanks for the info! I hope this doesn't turn out to be its first and last mention.

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Post by balofo » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:42 pm

Gelgoog Jager wrote:
balofo wrote:Nameless Dorado variant that uses electrical whips, only exist as this single picture
Thanks for the info! I hope this doesn't turn out to be its first and last mention.
better pic and description

http://www.gundams.de/age/mecha/images/ ... -vagan.jpg

Development chart reveals interesting things:
-A new MS developed from the Xamdrag: Perfect Defurse
-An official Genoace Cannon variant
-Clanche Custom and Clanche are developed from different lines(Double Bullet for Custom and Normal for Clanche)
-AGE 1 Swordia already on the chart
-Khronos is from Zedas, Zeydra from Zedas R
-Zeydalus comes from Dorado AND Zeydra
-Baqto, Dorado, Gomel and Reganner all have small variations(kanji before and after name)
-Another new MS: variation from Danazine, not Gurruzine? Looks exactly the same katakana for Danazine to me....

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Post by Arsarcana » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:32 pm

Kind of on topic, does anyone else look at the colors, proportions and some of the stylings of the Glud and immediately think of the original E.S. Simeon from Xenosaga?

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Post by balofo » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:08 pm

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Post by toysdream » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:57 pm

Just picked up the Gundam Age Mechanic & World book, and there are a couple of interesting tidbits I've already noticed...

* As perhaps some people already know, the Vagan Gear is actually a very old machine from the pre-AG era, from which most of the Vagan mobile suit technology is derived. The Mechanic & World book speculates that this may be why it occurred to Sid to bond with it - because its specifications were already recorded in the EXA-DB, and Sid thus "knew" they were technologically compatible.

* The Xamdrag and Defurse are basically the top and bottom halves of the same giant mobile suit design, and indeed they share the same central body. The "Perfect Defurse" mentioned in the development chart would presumably be a simple splice of the two machines, which should be easy to mock up with Photoshop. :-)

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Post by Newtype87 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:26 pm

toysdream wrote:* The Xamdrag and Defurse are basically the top and bottom halves of the same giant mobile suit design, and indeed they share the same central body. The "Perfect Defurse" mentioned in the development chart would presumably be a simple splice of the two machines, which should be easy to mock up with Photoshop. :-)

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Does anyone else feel like nickname the resulting Zeong-esque monstrosity "Vagang?"
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Post by Amion » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:49 pm

Newtype87 wrote:
toysdream wrote:* The Xamdrag and Defurse are basically the top and bottom halves of the same giant mobile suit design, and indeed they share the same central body. The "Perfect Defurse" mentioned in the development chart would presumably be a simple splice of the two machines, which should be easy to mock up with Photoshop. :-)

-- Mark
Does anyone else feel like nickname the resulting Zeong-esque monstrosity "Vagang?"
Hmm, I wish someone would actually do a mockup of this, because that thing would be the second coming of the Big Zam. (I'm not sure about the Zeong--would it really look like that? I mean, look at the Defurse: It has legs, Newtype. And the Zeong, it doesn't have legs. Or am I missing something pertinent again O_0)
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Post by Newtype87 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:04 am

Amion wrote:
Newtype87 wrote:
toysdream wrote:* The Xamdrag and Defurse are basically the top and bottom halves of the same giant mobile suit design, and indeed they share the same central body. The "Perfect Defurse" mentioned in the development chart would presumably be a simple splice of the two machines, which should be easy to mock up with Photoshop. :-)

-- Mark
Does anyone else feel like nickname the resulting Zeong-esque monstrosity "Vagang?"
Hmm, I wish someone would actually do a mockup of this, because that thing would be the second coming of the Big Zam. (I'm not sure about the Zeong--would it really look like that? I mean, look at the Defurse: It has legs, Newtype. And the Zeong, it doesn't have legs. Or am I missing something pertinent again O_0)
The Zeong we see in the show is incomplete. The final version would have been twice as tall, thanks to the inclusion of a set of thruster-laden legs. The war ended before it could be finished, and they basically bolted the foot thrusters into the hip section.
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MSN-02_Perfect_Zeong
And yes, it is very silly.
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Post by Outlaw » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:42 am

Amion wrote:Hmm, I wish someone would actually do a mockup of this...
One Big Xam, order up.

Unless we were talking about the other way around you know, giving the Defurse gorilla toes.
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Post by AGF-Antoine » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:23 am

I would assume it would have the tail of Defurse as well.

Especially considering how useless the melee tail would be on that height.

I sure hope official data will give us clarification on the matter soon.


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Post by Gelgoog Jager » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:25 pm

Newtype87 wrote:The Zeong we see in the show is incomplete. The final version would have been twice as tall, thanks to the inclusion of a set of thruster-laden legs. The war ended before it could be finished, and they basically bolted the foot thrusters into the hip section.
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MSN-02_Perfect_Zeong
And yes, it is very silly.
I think that a true Perfect Zeong would have been a MSN-02R High Mobility Zeon with legs:

http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MSN-02R_Ze ... ility_Type

The idea that a variant of the incomplete Zeong was designed is actually silly, considering that the design was not meant to be leg-less, rather it turned out that way as a desperate last minute modification to have the unit available for combat.

Even after the war it would mean that if another Zeong unit survived, it would be in the same incomplete state as Char's unit, without the possibility of completing the unit according to the original blueprint. We can't even argue that Char's combat data could have inspired the unit as all sections of the Zeong were destroyed in the final battle at A Baoa Qu.

Anyway, a MSN-02R with legs could have been Zeon's ultimate MS, capable of combat both on space and Earth (maybe even capable of limited atmospheric flight).

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Post by Gelgoog Jager » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:04 am

Sorry for the double post, but Memory of Eden should be out by now.

If anyone has seen it, could they please list any new MS that appear on it (besides the already well known Red Legilis)?

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Post by balofo » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:07 am

Gelgoog Jager wrote:Sorry for the double post, but Memory of Eden should be out by now.

If anyone has seen it, could they please list any new MS that appear on it (besides the already well known Red Legilis)?
no raws yet, only recolors so far. I saw a Adele MKII Space equipped with the Adele Cannon Wear, but it doesn't count

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