The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk III

ShadowCell · Post by **ShadowCell** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:55 pm

we got rid of DuelGundam because he went around picking constant fights and then playing dumb and pretending to just be a victim of it all. Homeless does not do that; she owns up to what she says and doesn't press it into a giant ZOINKS of passive-aggressive horseshit. if she does, then she will meet the same fate (although hopefully without the stalking-me-on-deviantart-and-pestering-me-with-alt-accounts business).

if you can't deal with the thought that some people don't like Unicorn, well, tough.

now. we are done talking about that. further posts on it will be deleted. let's get back on topic.

to wit: i can't tell what to make of Sinanju's junk in the trunk there.

balofo · Post by **balofo** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:07 pm

Lots of cool stuff:
-EWAC Jegan on Nahel Argama
-Jegan Beam Rifle from F91 appears being used by a Rezel
-Jegan's Beam Saber Alternate Mode
-Revolving Launcher can select its ammo type
-Dummies

pics soon

MaC · Post by **MaC** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:30 pm

ShadowCell wrote: to wit: i can't tell what to make of Sinanju's junk in the trunk there.

It reminds me a lot of Nightingale's lobster tail. It strikes me now that Sinanju and Nightingale's propellant tanks are awful similar. I wonder if this new design will take some of Nightingale's stylings?

balofo · Post by **balofo** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:04 pm

mcred23 · Post by **mcred23** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:30 pm

balofo wrote:Jesta Cannons Hand Grenades being launched, retcon?
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/3693/vlcs ... h18m40.png

It's not a retcon. IIRC, the only time in any of the older animated works we see those type of grenades being used, they are being launched in the exact same manner by a Heavygun in F91. So, in spite of them always being labeled as grenades on the various suits that use them, and people just assuming they'd be thrown like a typical hand grenade (As some OYW MS have been shown to do), they're depicted more like little missiles or rockets.

balofo · Post by **balofo** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:41 pm

mcred23 wrote:
balofo wrote:Jesta Cannons Hand Grenades being launched, retcon?
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/3693/vlcs ... h18m40.png
It's not a retcon. IIRC, the only time in any of the older animated works we see those type of grenades being used, they are being launched in the exact same manner by a Heavygun in F91. So, in spite of them always being labeled as grenades on the various suits that use them, and people just assuming they'd be thrown like a typical hand grenade (As some OYW MS have been shown to do), they're depicted more like little missiles or rockets.

Actually only the Heavygun has this function, and its hip grenades actually have propellers on the back of the grenade.

The Jesta Cannons Hand Grenades(hip/leg) are designed exactly like the the Jegan ones, no propellers on the back of the grenade; unless they make new lineart to justify this. Like the Zaku Kai Grenades that had that cool gimmick in OVA 4 used by Dwodage, Desert Zaku, Tropen are made up, that function didn't exist before and the matching lineart for the UC OVAs is same lineart for the Zaku Kai, so...

They messed up since in the novels the Jesta Cannon has missiles stored on those hexagonal white armor plates in the shoulder armor. Worse in the novels Watts uses both the leg hand grenades by just dropping them and the shouder armor stored missile launchers. Just like its head that should have a visor guard gimmick that they forgot.

Gonna have to wait to see the lineart for OVA Jesta Cannon

Homeless · Post by **Homeless** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:44 pm

So no further detail on the Armed Armor XC, huh.

balofo · Post by **balofo** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:49 pm

Homeless wrote:So no further detail on the Armed Armor XC, huh.

Besides from what I can gather from bad manual scans, model, and OVA 6: supposed to be a giant mane for NT-D, has extra generator adding +1000kw, has a hidden function and can be used as a weapon.

Wait for decent manual scans and for a translation here

Deacon Blues · Post by **Deacon Blues** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:38 pm

balofo wrote:OVA 6 MS Trivia:

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/5997/lib640750.jpg

Revolving Launcher ammo options(each barrel holds an ammo type), also looks like Armed Armor XC can be used as weapon:
-BEAM JYUTE(!)
-BDP MISSLE(any clue on what BDP means?)
-MGaAP(last letters must be Armor Piercing, ny clue on what MGa means?)
-MGaAP

That actually says POP missile. It's the same weapon the Guntank has.

My guess on the MGA: Machine Gun Array?

balofo · Post by **balofo** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:46 pm

Deacon Blues wrote:
balofo wrote:OVA 6 MS Trivia:

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/5997/lib640750.jpg

Revolving Launcher ammo options(each barrel holds an ammo type), also looks like Armed Armor XC can be used as weapon:
-BEAM JYUTE(!)
-BDP MISSLE(any clue on what BDP means?)
-MGaAP(last letters must be Armor Piercing, ny clue on what MGa means?)
-MGaAP
That actually says POP missile. It's the same weapon the Guntank has.

My guess on the MGA: Machine Gun Array?

Actually it's BOP, indeed like the Guntank

for MGaAP: it must be something like M? Grenade and Armor Piercing

***Another trivia, the General Revil retains the 3 Mega Particle Cannons underside for bombardment like the Dogoss Giar, but they are way shorter than before.

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/4052 ... h23m11.png

Whats the actual name for these cannons, pic below. Long Barrel something? First weapon in the list.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7181/docu0020.jpg

Calubin_175 · Post by **Calubin_175** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:19 am

Beam jyute is like a beam dagger/bayonet, similar to the one on the GP01.

Btw, do these orange unsleeved Zulus belong to the Zabi camp? Orange might be a homage to CE's Heine squad.

E08 · Post by **E08** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:38 am

balofo wrote: F91 Jegan Normal Type Beam Rifle(with new purple beam effect):
http://imageshack.us/a/img827/1268/vlcs ... h16m59.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img441/9229/vlcs ... h16m48.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/1415/vlcs ... h16m29.png

Balofo, are you sure that rifle belongs to F91 Jegan? It looks more like a simplifed/cut down version of MKII's rifle... Heck, the last image reminds me of 0 gundam's rifle. However, i did remember seeing at least one Rezel carrying the Jegan's rifle.

balofo wrote:Whats the actual name for these cannons, pic below. Long Barrel something? First weapon in the list.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7181/docu0020.jpg

I think it says 'Long range mega particle cannon'.

Calubin_175 wrote:Btw, do these orange unsleeved Zulus belong to the Zabi camp?

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Those are actually the Zulus that the Sleeves did not have a chance to take away from Nahel Argama during the later event of the ep. I suppose they need to paint it in a brighter colour to differentiate them from the Sleeves' ones.

balofo · Post by **balofo** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:49 am

Yeah, in further inspection it doesn't totally match the F91 era Jegan Beam Rifle, seems more like an in-between version

F91 era Jegan Beam Rifle
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/f91/li ... mrifle.jpg

Gundam Mark II's, which resembles the F91 era Jegan Beam Rifle
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/line ... mrifle.jpg

Sorry guys, should have paid more attention

On another note the FA UC doesn't launch with the Beam Magnum, nor does the Hyper Beam Javelin appear to be stored anywhere. Humm...

Mythgarr · Post by **Mythgarr** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:57 pm

Where does that ReZEL keep its pistols?

balofo · Post by **balofo** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:05 pm

Mythgarr wrote:Where does that ReZEL keep its pistols?

The OVA doesn't show where it holds them in MA form, gotta wait for lineart if available.

I solved 2 OVA 6 mysteries:

1)The new Rezel Beam Rifle is INDEED Katoki's take on the F91 Jegan Normal Type Beam Rifle, there's even his version of the A/B type one in this scan. I believe the blurb says he isn't sure they'd appear in UC, but here they are used on the OVAs. The Jegan using Rezel's rifle also is based on this.

http://imageshack.us/a/img407/6226/img043w.jpg

2)The Jesta Cannon's hip/leg Hand Grenades now can be used as Grenade Launcher by just removing the lids, revealing propellers as seen circled in red in these screencaps. This is either a retcon or exclusive to the Jesta Cannon, since the HGUC manual doesn't mention this function for the normal Jesta(which now have 6 grenade launchers instead of the almost useless hand grenades in space).

http://imageshack.us/a/img209/7811/mobi ... cunico.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img560/7811/mobi ... cunico.jpg

***With this solved we can go back to speculating on Frontal's new MA. Here's a composite of the hangar scene, so far the only attributes known are: huge rear skirt(Zeong, Nightingale style), no legs with lots of thrusters in place, Sinanju's torso and its 2 fixed thrusters and 2 propellant tanks, huge arm(?) with some unknown gimmick.

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/8910/ck6ddcy.jpg

*****Nobody commented on Jegans being seen on the Earth for the first time in animation?

yazi88 · Post by **yazi88** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:40 am

Based on what was shown on screen and what was left alive from OVA 3 I'm guessing that the Nahal Argama's current MS compartment consists of:

2 ReZels (Both have damaged arms by Banshee)
1 ReZel C type (Might have been damaged during

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Rozen Zulu's escape

3 or 4 Jegans (1 damaged, 2 putting thrusters on FA Unicorn, one may have been converted to EWAC)
1 EWAC Jegan (Might be converted Jegan)
2 or 3 Jegan ECOAS type (left over from OVA 3)
Probably 3 Lotos (Assuming they survived from OVA 3 which is high possibility)
FA Unicorn
Patchwork Kshatriya
3 to 5 Geara Zulu Royal Guard type (Spray painted, probably used by

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defecting Garencieres crew)

2 Geara Zulus (Used by Kwani, Ivan from Garencieres)

Arbiter GUNDAM · Post by **Arbiter GUNDAM** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:39 am

As for Frontal's new suit.... where are the Sleeves getting the money for this?

yazi88 · Post by **yazi88** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:51 am

Arbiter GUNDAM wrote:As for Frontal's new suit.... where are the Sleeves getting the money for this?

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Republic of Zeon, after all, they also created Full Frontal after all from brainwashing a cyber-newtype into believing he really was Char.

balofo · Post by **balofo** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:49 am

Finally Banshee Norn manual scan, requesting translations on Armed Armor DE, Armed Armor XC, Revolving Launcher and suit history

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5043/10214076k.jpg

BrentD15 · Post by **BrentD15** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:06 pm

yazi88 wrote:
Arbiter GUNDAM wrote:As for Frontal's new suit.... where are the Sleeves getting the money for this?

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Republic of Zeon, after all, they also created Full Frontal after all from brainwashing a cyber-newtype into believing he really was Char.

Was that stated in the novel, or in the OVA?

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