DoubleZero wrote:Well, Zechs seems to be handling those maneuvers, and the only time Zechs pushed those super verniers to their limits is when he did that linear charge, thus the rib-breaking. Plus, it's actually more surprising that the linear acceleration at full throttle of the Tallgeese did more damage to Zechs than the maneuvers themselves.
From what I saw, Zechs was barely hanging on from the G-forces during his battle with the enemy mobile suits. Again, just because he pushed the super verniers to their limits during that scene doesn't mean much, since he could experience more Gs at lower outputs depending on how he's flying.
And Otto's test of the Tallgeese tells us that it's 3 times faster than an Aries, but it's max acceleration is unknown because Otto lost consciousness during the test. But how did Otto test the Tallgeese? A test for it's max acceleration?
Three times faster doesn't mean three times the acceleration. Since he doesn't exactly clarify, the obvious way of interpreting his words is that the Tallgeese's maximum speed is three times greater than that of the Aries'.
DoubleZero wrote:Well, Zechs seems to be handling those maneuvers, and the only time Zechs pushed those super verniers to their limits is when he did that linear charge, thus the rib-breaking. Plus, it's actually more surprising that the linear acceleration at full throttle of the Tallgeese did more damage to Zechs than the maneuvers themselves.
From what I saw, Zechs was barely hanging on from the G-forces during his battle with the enemy mobile suits. Again, just because he pushed the super verniers to their limits during that scene doesn't mean much, since he could experience more Gs at lower outputs depending on how he's flying.
And Otto's test of the Tallgeese tells us that it's 3 times faster than an Aries, but it's max acceleration is unknown because Otto lost consciousness during the test. But how did Otto test the Tallgeese? A test for it's max acceleration?
Three times faster doesn't mean three times the acceleration. Since he doesn't exactly clarify, the obvious way of interpreting his words is that the Tallgeese's maximum speed is three times greater than that of the Aries'.
I think the reason the term "three times" was pulled up there was an obvious homage to char. Who Zechs is the archetype for. There for the fact that that in and of itself was mentioned shouldn't have any relevance to this particular question. So what if Zechs didn't pilot anything remotely similar to the color red till the epyon? Thats not what this question is about, the question is about the Tallgeese's speed in and of itself. The only way of determining that would be to review the suit's full use throughout the series. Not as Tallgeese II or Tallgeese III because those are modified versions of the original Tallgeese, but the use of the Tallgeese from when Zechs himself started piloting it all the way until he obtained Wing Zero. That includes any canon sidestories concerning the Tallgeese.
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AnimeMun wrote:I think the reason the term "three times" was pulled up there was an obvious homage to char. Who Zechs is the archetype for. There for the fact that that in and of itself was mentioned shouldn't have any relevance to this particular question. So what if Zechs didn't pilot anything remotely similar to the color red till the epyon? Thats not what this question is about, the question is about the Tallgeese's speed in and of itself.
Wait, what? No one is saying that Char has anything to do with this. Yes, we all know that the statement was a homage to Char's "three times as fast" Zaku II, but that doesn't mean that we need to overlook it as irrelevant because in the end, it was said by a credible in-series source. Nevertheless, just because Char's Zaku II was three times as fast as a regular machine doesn't mean that it has three times the acceleration (frankly, it doesn't).
The only way of determining that would be to review the suit's full use throughout the series. Not as Tallgeese II or Tallgeese III because those are modified versions of the original Tallgeese, but the use of the Tallgeese from when Zechs himself started piloting it all the way until he obtained Wing Zero. That includes any canon sidestories concerning the Tallgeese.
Nitpick here, but the Tallgeese II is basically the same as the Tallgeese. It's different only aesthetically, whereas the Tallgeese III is a full overhaul.
As far as I can see, it's about the Tallgeese's development. I'm using Google translator and Babelfish, and the results differ somewhat. I may take a few liberties with the interpretation. Apparently, it looks likes nothing we haven't heard before, except these few things:
Babelfish: The super verniers were developed after the suit itself was finished without other thrusters.
Google: The scientists added the authority of Dr. Howard's propulsion technology (This might mean why Howard still had those orbital boosters for the Tallgeese, which he claimed were for the Gundams but were never used by them even though Howard was an ally of the Gundam pilots already.)
Babelfish: It has a thrust and rotation power of more than three times that of the Aries, resulting in a theoretical 15Gs of acceleration which is more than the usual person can handle.
Google: (Google mentions the same thing except that normal humans will be handled by it instead, haha.)
Babelfish: Tallgeese's size was inadequate (meaning as in not acceptable, I guess) and the project was suspended, until the Leo was developed as a smaller simpler solution.
Google: The Tallgeese project was intended to be more than a few spare parts and a design lasting for a short time, but simplifying the machine would mean the development of new standards aimed at improving equipment productivity and production model prototypes now known as the Leo.
Babelfish: It has a face similar to a Gundam, even though it has the square Leo camera under it.
Google: Under the Gundam face, it can see with a square shaped Leo sensor.
I'm just going to copy and paste the direct translation as this concerns the Tallgeese name. Google appears to be more accurate with it.
Babelfish: As for origin of name from descending/disembarking spirit technique teacher (Theurgist, [teurugisuto] and surge strike).
Google: The name comes from the necromancer (Theurgist, Teurugisuto, strike surge)
