The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
I guess the first link should be to the official site's mecha tab.
http://www.gundam-unicorn.net/en/ms/index.html
For those who haven't been to the official site, they do have all the summaries on the MS in English.
http://www.gundam-unicorn.net/en/ms/index.html
For those who haven't been to the official site, they do have all the summaries on the MS in English.
Spoiler is just for those who don't know anything about and wish not to.RX-0 Unicorn Gundam
A prototype mobile suit developed for the Earth Federation Forces by Anaheim Electronics, as part of the secret UC Project. The machine is distinguished by its pure white colors and the single horn on its head, and is nicknamed Unicorn. This machine conceals a secret that could shake the future of all humanity.
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RX-0 Unicorn Gundam (Destroy Mode)
The true form of the Unicorn Gundam, which appears when its NT-D system is activated. Its internal frame expands, transforming its entire body, and the seams of its armor separate and slide open. The machine's performance, especially its mobility, is dramatically increased while the NT-D system is active. This system activates automatically in response to certain conditions, rather than at the discretion of the pilot, but it is still unclear what these conditions actually are.
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
In addition to the spoiler about the Unicorn Gundam there is also this image.
This might be jumping too far ahead though.
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
True, though yes, it is jumping a bit too far ahead as far as the anime's concerned. That scan corresponds to some of the later novels.
In other news, a minor addition needs to be made to the Stark Jegan's profile, as this screencap from the new Anime Trailer explicitly shows the anime version of the Stark Jegan to have at least one beam saber stored in a forearm compartment, which, at a brief glance, seems to be missing from the old CCA-MSV version.
In other news, a minor addition needs to be made to the Stark Jegan's profile, as this screencap from the new Anime Trailer explicitly shows the anime version of the Stark Jegan to have at least one beam saber stored in a forearm compartment, which, at a brief glance, seems to be missing from the old CCA-MSV version.
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
Ok, I have one big question concerning the ReZEL. First off, how in story does this MP suit come about. If I remember right back in Zeta the EFSF decided it was too costly to ever mass produce so what changed their minds about doing so? Secondly, besides the extra binders, what is different about the back packs of the standard and the commander type?
On another note... doesn't the ReZEL look like the bastard child of the Zeta and the Methuss? (insert Kamille+Fa joke here)
On another note... doesn't the ReZEL look like the bastard child of the Zeta and the Methuss? (insert Kamille+Fa joke here)
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
What's there to joke about? Kamille and Fa make a cute and down-to-earth couple... it's not her fault that he tends to gravitate toward the briarpatch of psycho-bitches.
As for the ReZEL and the issue of mass-producing the Zeta Gundam, I think the best way to approach the issue and explain why Anaheim continues trying to do this is to approach it from the side of commerce. Unlike, say, the Federal or Zeonic R&D divisions, Anaheim treats their MS like product to be moved and approach design and branding from that perspective.
The Zeta Gundam, for all of its exploits in the Gryps War, is probably the most famous mobile suit outside of the original RX-78 model. Therefore, any mobile suit that can claim lineage from the Zeta would jump to the top of the Christmas wishlist for both the Federation and a variety of Spacenoid organizations (in that sense, the Zeta is blessed with wider appeal than the RX-78).
As for the ReZEL itself, yes, it clearly takes design notes from the Methuss. There is another MS in between those two, that being the ZII, which also incorporated the Methuss's transformation scheme. Since this transformation system is simpler, it can be seen that the ReZEL is another attempt to bring production costs of a Zeta-type machine down to a level that an organization is willing to buy a lot of them.
As for the ReZEL and the issue of mass-producing the Zeta Gundam, I think the best way to approach the issue and explain why Anaheim continues trying to do this is to approach it from the side of commerce. Unlike, say, the Federal or Zeonic R&D divisions, Anaheim treats their MS like product to be moved and approach design and branding from that perspective.
The Zeta Gundam, for all of its exploits in the Gryps War, is probably the most famous mobile suit outside of the original RX-78 model. Therefore, any mobile suit that can claim lineage from the Zeta would jump to the top of the Christmas wishlist for both the Federation and a variety of Spacenoid organizations (in that sense, the Zeta is blessed with wider appeal than the RX-78).
As for the ReZEL itself, yes, it clearly takes design notes from the Methuss. There is another MS in between those two, that being the ZII, which also incorporated the Methuss's transformation scheme. Since this transformation system is simpler, it can be seen that the ReZEL is another attempt to bring production costs of a Zeta-type machine down to a level that an organization is willing to buy a lot of them.
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
the Zeta was too costly to MP thats the reason they started to think of others ways to get the benefits of the Zeta with out the cost, this also lead to the Zii and others. the ReZEL was how they reduced the cost of the Zeta. Just like the GM is a cheaper version of the RX-78-2
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Re-ZEL is almost literally a mass produced version of the ZII.Kenji wrote: There is another MS in between those two, that being the ZII, which also incorporated the Methuss's transformation scheme.
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I've never seen how the ZII transforms, but is the torso transformation similar to the Zeta, i.e., http://dalong.net/review/mg/m87/p/m87_t12.jpg?
The HGUC kit for ReZEL did away with the actual transformation, but the torso part that is swapped in seemed suspiciously like the Zeta.
The HGUC kit for ReZEL did away with the actual transformation, but the torso part that is swapped in seemed suspiciously like the Zeta.
Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
Knowing Bandai's love for the Zeta Variations. (I built the C1 this past summer, and its shoulders stay on a hell of a lot better than the Ver. 2.0's arms ever did) We'll see an MG of it within this year. If only for Unicorn love. My next question is about the NT-D system itself. How do you think it will show its appearance in the anime? Something like how Trans-AM did or something closer to a Shining/Burning(God) Finger attack of G Gundam? Or will it be some crazy uber Newtype flash?radioactive28 wrote:I've never seen how the ZII transforms, but is the torso transformation similar to the Zeta, i.e., http://dalong.net/review/mg/m87/p/m87_t12.jpg?
The HGUC kit for ReZEL did away with the actual transformation, but the torso part that is swapped in seemed suspiciously like the Zeta.
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
I think that it will probably have a sequence similar to the Trans AM and or God Finger attacks. They already showed the Unicorn Gundam going into Destroy Mode in the trailer IIRC.AnimeMun wrote:Knowing Bandai's love for the Zeta Variations. (I built the C1 this past summer, and its shoulders stay on a hell of a lot better than the Ver. 2.0's arms ever did) We'll see an MG of it within this year. If only for Unicorn love. My next question is about the NT-D system itself. How do you think it will show its appearance in the anime? Something like how Trans-AM did or something closer to a Shining/Burning(God) Finger attack of G Gundam? Or will it be some crazy uber Newtype flash?radioactive28 wrote:I've never seen how the ZII transforms, but is the torso transformation similar to the Zeta, i.e., http://dalong.net/review/mg/m87/p/m87_t12.jpg?
The HGUC kit for ReZEL did away with the actual transformation, but the torso part that is swapped in seemed suspiciously like the Zeta.
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
It's closer to the Methuss than the Zeta IIRCradioactive28 wrote:I've never seen how the ZII transforms, but is the torso transformation similar to the Zeta, i.e., http://dalong.net/review/mg/m87/p/m87_t12.jpg?
The HGUC kit for ReZEL did away with the actual transformation, but the torso part that is swapped in seemed suspiciously like the Zeta.
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Indeed it is, hence the comparison being made by radioactive28 and VentZX to the Methuss-derived MSZ-008 Zeta II.
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The ReZEL's arm tucks into what seems like the torso space though, unless I'm mistaken, and the creators decide to animate differently from the kit. This is quite different from the Methuss, and is actually the problem area with the Zeta's transformation that made it so costly?hellbore wrote:It's closer to the Methuss than the Zeta IIRCradioactive28 wrote:I've never seen how the ZII transforms, but is the torso transformation similar to the Zeta, i.e., http://dalong.net/review/mg/m87/p/m87_t12.jpg?
The HGUC kit for ReZEL did away with the actual transformation, but the torso part that is swapped in seemed suspiciously like the Zeta.
http://dalong.net/review/hg/h61/h61_p.htm
But, yes, the silhouette and the rest of the transformation is clearly Methuss/ZII otherwise.
EDIT: Some pictures to show what I'm talking about:
The 'transformed' body, showing the arms in their final position
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With the chest armour/cockpit attached, main binder and skirt thrusters added
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/757/ ... 187934.jpg
Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
Ok, now that we have everything covered on the ReZEL, here is a even more interesting question, why the Lotos? I thought after First Gundam era it was universally agreed that noone likes tank type mechs. I appreciate how it fits in as a Guncannon type but why give it a tank mode? Its just gonna become fodder. Or is it to make Jegan types look better over all?
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It's there to explain why the R-44 exists. Basically, to give a sense of solid continuity.AnimeMun wrote:Ok, now that we have everything covered on the ReZEL, here is a even more interesting question, why the Lotos? I thought after First Gundam era it was universally agreed that noone likes tank type mechs. I appreciate how it fits in as a Guncannon type but why give it a tank mode? Its just gonna become fodder. Or is it to make Jegan types look better over all?
There isn't an in-universe reason though, AFAIK.
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
Well aside from all the new mobile suits that are shown, now the version of the Jegan in Unicorn is actually a variant judging from its model number of RGM-89D rather than just the RGM-89, I'm probably guessing its just a minor upgrade with updated avionics and some tweaks here and there kind of like J-type which was moderately upgraded in terms of performance.
I also have a question, is the RGM-96X Jesta a limited high performance variant of the Jegan, or is it a an entirely new suit that is developed using data and parts of the Jegan?
Also another question about the Stark Jegan, is it just a Jegan with weapons pack on it that is compatible with all Jegans or is it an individual limited production suit that was specifically designed within its frame to use those heavy weapons
I also have a question, is the RGM-96X Jesta a limited high performance variant of the Jegan, or is it a an entirely new suit that is developed using data and parts of the Jegan?
Also another question about the Stark Jegan, is it just a Jegan with weapons pack on it that is compatible with all Jegans or is it an individual limited production suit that was specifically designed within its frame to use those heavy weapons
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RE: Stark Jegan; Judging from the lineart alone, I'd say the latter. It looks a little different from the stock RGM-89D
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There is. If you watch Trailer 3 closely, you'll see that the LOTO carries ground soldiers. It's operated almost exclusively by the Manhunters unit. And yes, it is the predecessor tot he R-44, so it's nice to see it there for that as well. In another sense, it's basically evidence that MS miniaturization was starting as early as UC 0096.TakaTahuNuva wrote:There isn't an in-universe reason though, AFAIK.
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Re: The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I
Regarding the (Tony) Stark Jegan, it looks like the newly-officialised version is a stock Jegan-D with some extras bolted on - unbolt the extras, you get a regular -89D in return, more or less. The only bits which look different are the hip armour pieces, the grenade and beam sabre racks seem to have been replaced with what I can only assume are small missile pods of some sort.
As for the Loto, the official English site gives the explanation that it is "A mobile suit used exclusively by the Earth Federation's ECOAS special forces. It is relatively small for a mobile suit, and can change into a tank form. It can also function as a field headquarters and has a variety of sensors and communications equipment. The Loto was developed by the Strategic Naval Research Institute (SNRI), and its operating data will be used for the development of future miniaturized mobile suits." In other words, SNRI had produced its first MS model a mere 3 years after being created - its GundamOfficial entry notes that the Institute was founded in UC 0093, presumably in the wake of Char's Rebellion.
As for the Loto, the official English site gives the explanation that it is "A mobile suit used exclusively by the Earth Federation's ECOAS special forces. It is relatively small for a mobile suit, and can change into a tank form. It can also function as a field headquarters and has a variety of sensors and communications equipment. The Loto was developed by the Strategic Naval Research Institute (SNRI), and its operating data will be used for the development of future miniaturized mobile suits." In other words, SNRI had produced its first MS model a mere 3 years after being created - its GundamOfficial entry notes that the Institute was founded in UC 0093, presumably in the wake of Char's Rebellion.
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