The Official Gundam Unicorn Mecha Thread Mk I

[toysdream]

it's from the ova 2 booklet, also it is equipped with every piece of additional armor of the stark jegan minus the shoulder missile launchers. It's armed with a jegan beam rifle and a GM III beam rifle, the hip attachents seem to be 3 hand grenades and beam saber(although an animation error shows another grenade rack)

Gotcha, thanks. As well as the shoulder missile launchers, this version also omits the forearm units (which carry grenade launchers and beam sabers) and the face guard. On the other hand, it does carry two beam rifles, which is pretty cool.

-i read somewhere that the beam rifle shot that can cut like a beam saber is called the guillotine shot. the londo bell pilots are particulary fond of this type of shot.

According to the kit manuals, it's called a "guillotine burst," and it's a special feature of the ReZEL's beam rifle.

-Also the sleeved dreissen is a variation mentioned in the old hg kit called dreissen beam launcher equipped, i think this'll only be a cameo with the endra since they weren't in the novel. I read somewhere that someone of the staff is some hardcore fan of the franchise and asked to things like the guncannon detector to be included.

There was never an HG kit of the Dreissen, sadly, although maybe we'll get one now. Anyway, this isn't the prototype version shown in the old kit manual; that one had no tri-blades on its back, and its beam launcher had a square muzzle.

-- Mark

[balofo]

cool information mark, thanks for the corrections. Was there anything interesting on the sinanju booklet, i hear the sleeved stole two prototypes, one became the sinanju and the other was used for spare parts and providing psycoframe for the kshatrya and rozen zulu

[JEFFPIATT]

I do find it nice of sunrise to not go and dispose of an older MSV in favor of newer line art. The first "S" type we saw is a field conversion kit for the more modular D type in use during unicorn. the cameo is of the actual S type build at an AE plant during CCA. This does show the EFSF trying to reduce costs by reducing the amount of factory made sub types and having one General frame that can be field fitted for many roles. returning to the RGM-79 and zaku II ability to fight in many environments. By the F91 era it seems that the EFSF had AE do three role refits on the old Jengen units in to General use type, Hi-mo type, and the support Type models.

[Calubin_175]

Nice to know that they're officially allowing the Stark Jegan thruster configuration to constitute a high mobility model. This really explains why the episode 1 Jegan fought so well and how the Juliet 004 was not falling behind the two ReZELs and keeping formation.

Edit: Actually, I would prefer this Jegan to be called Stark Jegan(High Mobility Configuration(shiyou)). Its appearance just looks too makeshift and incomplete to earn a new name. Besides, this treatment reminds me of all those pre- MSV-R GM Guard and Interceptor customs.

Obviously this high mobility Jegan lacks a shield as it is expected that skilled pilots in a such a machine don't need one. However, in episode 2 those parts were not installed for ace pilot maneuvering but rather just for forward thrust to keep up with the ReZELs.

In terms of the two beam rifles, the GM III one is a standard model for standard range shooting while the Jegan one is for short range burst fire.


Geara Dogas in the Rewoola kind of contradicts the novel as it says that in the Battle of Palau, it has 11 Geara Zulu Bodyguard types. But the Dogas might have only been in there before the Battle of Palau.

[JEFFPIATT]

It actually looks like the d type may end up introducing F90 style kits for variations this new one is a field model using the Hi-mobility parts of the s type without the heavy weapons. The B type was the actual High mobility model built with the combat data of MSN-100. What i would like to see is the RGC-90 Jegan Heavy Armor Type
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/RGC-90_Jeg ... Armor_Type
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/RGM-89B_Jegan_Kai

[balofo]

regarding the original stark jegan why is the cockipt block so huge? and why the original has the 60mm vulcans in the chest in the specs while the jegan d addon doesn't?

also can anyone confirm that this machine will be equipped with nukes in the following battle? since in the novel:

Spoiler

a loto is supposed to mark the right spot with laser so the nukes can be most effective

[Calubin_175]

I was kind of skeptical at first about the Stark Jegan equipment being used for high mobility purposes given that Akitaka Mika's original Stark Jegan only boasts 62000kg of thruster output which is almost identical to that of the the standard Jegan. However, the recently released UC mechanical archives actually gives the new Stark Jegan a thruster output of 76600kg, even though they're visually almost identical. On a different note, the original Stark Jegan does boast better sensor range of 4000m more, hence the added antennas plus the suitability to launch large warheads.

So 76600kg vs ReZEL's 81500kgs is quite reasonable. Nome was probably slowing down in his Waverider for both the MS mode ReZEL and the (High mob)Stark Jegan. After all, the overall speed of a squadron is only as fast as its slowest unit.

Now I got to rewatch ep1 to re-recognize the High Mobility aspect of the missile-less Stark Jegan.

I do find it nice of sunrise to not go and dispose of an older MSV in favor of newer line art. The first "S" type we saw is a field conversion kit for the more modular D type in use during unicorn. the cameo is of the actual S type build at an AE plant during CCA. This does show the EFSF trying to reduce costs by reducing the amount of factory made sub types and having one General frame that can be field fitted for many roles. returning to the RGM-79 and zaku II ability to fight in many environments. By the F91 era it seems that the EFSF had AE do three role refits on the old Jengen units in to General use type, Hi-mo type, and the support Type models.

Sad to say, Fukui Hitoshi's CCA-MSV designs aren't that well received. Only Akitaka Mika's ones received a lot of praise, notably from the Re-Gz Custom, hence its wing winders are implemented onto the ReZEL. Don't forget even the Bruno Cannon is from the same designer.

[Laevatein]

Just an odd naming question out of curiosity:

AFAIK the "ReGZ" stands for "Refined Gundam Zeta"... so what's the "ReZEL" then?

[Arsarcana]

Refined Zeta Escort Leader.

[Laevatein]

That's a very straightforward acronym for "ZEL", at least it sounds nice Thanks

[reeoyuy]

Question, when will Unicorn get the bazooka? And is that bazooka something special? Or just regular (no fancy gimmick like beam magnum) bazooka?

[blind_dead_mcjones]

no idea, and AFAIK its just a run-of-the-mill bazooka, the only notable feature being that when the unicorn goes into destroy mode the barrel extends*



* "HA!HA!HA! freudian." - Phil Ken Sebben

[flamingtroll]

no idea, and AFAIK its just a run-of-the-mill bazooka, the only notable feature being that when the unicorn goes into destroy mode the barrel extends*



* "HA!HA!HA! freudian." - Phil Ken Sebben

The bazooka extends regardless of what mode unicorn is in. It retracts only to save space. The HG manual says it's the same class as the typical federation bazooka. It's just customized to be more modular as a "weapon platform", whatever that means.

[Dendrobium Stamen]

It's just customized to be more modular as a "weapon platform", whatever that means.

If it's referring to the bazooka itself, it probably means it can use multiple ammunition types, and/or can swap out pieces like targeting sensors to modify the core weapon for different situations.

From what you said, though, it sounds more like the quote refers to Unicorn itself, and its modularity comes from the ability to equip alternative ranged weapons for different combat situations, in this case the bazooka and those beam Gatling guns, plus the FA mode of course.

Personally though, I can't see why anyone would feel the need to equip the RX-0 with any weapon but its beam magnum: a rifle that consumes an entire e-pac per shot, and can blow away a Geara Zulu with a near miss? Give it one in each hand and you can say goodbye to a battleship, let alone an enemy MS...

[Wingnut]

Personally though, I can't see why anyone would feel the need to equip the RX-0 with any weapon but its beam magnum: a rifle that consumes an entire e-pac per shot, and can blow away a Geara Zulu with a near miss? Give it one in each hand and you can say goodbye to a battleship, let alone an enemy MS...

Full Frontal showed that you can dodge the beam magnum, so a weapon with a faster rate of fire like the beam gatling in theory offers a better chance of a hit even if the hit doesn't have as much punch behind it. And an I-Field equipped mobile armor could render both of those guns useless so the bazooka would be the only way to do ranged damage to it.

[tHeWasTeDYouTh]

I noticed something, I do not know if this was cleared up but the Stark Jegan used in episode one is different from the one that is seen on the hangar when the reinforcements arrive on episode 2. The one in the start of episode one has the same color as a standard Jegan but the one in the hangar of episode two has a teal color, red on the chin with antennas and with a different chest.

[Laevatein]

I noticed something, I do not know if this was cleared up but the Stark Jegan used in episode one is different from the one that is seen on the hangar when the reinforcements arrive on episode 2. The one in the start of episode one has the same color as a standard Jegan but the one in the hangar of episode two has a teal color, red on the chin with antennas and with a different chest.

Yup, that one's been discussed already:

The Gundam Unicorn OVA uses two different versions of the Stark Jegan design. The special one in episode 2 is the original CCA-MSV version of the Stark Jegan, while the unit in episode 1 is the redesigned version for Gundam Unicorn.

See the two different versions here

[toysdream]

Yeah, the one we see at the end of episode 2 is the prototype Stark Jegan from the CCA-MSV series, not an RGM-89D with a conversion kit. I think we've been over this already, but it's a pretty awesome cameo.

-- Mark

[DuelGundam2099]

The stark Jegan in the middle has 2 antennas on it's head (like the original CCA MSV design) and a somewhat darker green color scheme. A custom/ace unit maybe?

I'm more interested in that gray Hyaku Shiki, is that the Delta Plus that was added to the main site recently or is that some other unit?

[iguanaman8989]

I'm more interested in that gray Hyaku Shiki, is that the Delta Plus that was added to the main site recently or is that some other unit?

Yeah, that's the Delta Plus, without the backpack though.