The Official Gundam Hathaway Mecha Thread Mk I

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The Official Gundam Hathaway Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by Chris » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:27 am

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Re: The Official Gundam Hathaway Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by yazi88 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:24 pm

I was surprised to see the Penelope Gundam's beam rifle for the poster. Most of the pics I've seen of the unit do not show it using its rifle. Especially in video games like SRW and G Generation, because it uses its arm beam cannons instead.

Xi Gundam is not gonna be in the 1st movie given how the novels play out.

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Post by Chris » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:04 am

yazi88 wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:24 pm
Xi Gundam is not gonna be in the 1st movie given how the novels play out.
It almost certainly will be, regardless of the novels. If Sunrise didn't care about twisting Victory Gundam out of order to get a Gundam into the first episode, they won't care about when the novels had Xi showing up.
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Post by Arsarcana » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:30 pm

Yeah, I'd be surprised if there isn't some sort of in medias res opening showing the Xi and playing the rest as a 'how we got here' retelling, or some other way of getting it into the first film. Gotta get it in there so they can boost the sale of merch...

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Post by yazi88 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:17 pm

Well... the main poster for the 1st movie also gives a indication too.

Even if the Xi Gundam was shown medias res... it could be used on promotion material... its not.

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Post by Arsarcana » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:08 am

yazi88 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:17 pm
Well... the main poster for the 1st movie also gives a indication too.
The one on the website? It's officially identified as a 'teaser visual', not the final poster. Meanwhile the Xi is displayed in the gallery as the image from when the project was first announced right alongside footage from the trailers.

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Post by yazi88 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:58 am

True. I forgot about the actual movie design version of the Xi Gundam. Probably make a appearence in the movie. Although I'm not expecting a Medias res, but the unit being shown, possibly at the end or in a container rather than being used in battle.

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Post by False Prophet » Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:43 am

Say, is there any official reason to why in early UC gundam (and MS in general) just keep on getting bigger? Is it to cram in more new technologies and bigger reactors?

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Re: The Official Gundam Hathaway Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by yazi88 » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:20 am

Most MS tend to be around 18 meters tall until the advent of smaller MS in F91 era and beyond where the norm became around 15 meters.

A couple of units tend to be pretty large, mostly due to the large firepower they carry. In case of the 2 Gundams in Hathaway's Flash, I believe its a combination of the heavy firepower as well as the Minovsky craft flight system that was the reason why the Penelope and Xi Gundams were pretty large. Minovsky crafts were mainly used on ships or large mobile armors (some of which transformed into MS mode like the Psycho Gundam and Psycho Gundam Mk II).

Although I don't understand the reason why the Gustav Karl is that large, given that it doesn't have that much firepower, its the usual general MS weapons, but it does have more heavy armor compared to other Federation mass production units at the time. So I guess the other reason why some of these units are so big is also because of the heavy armor. The O also fits in this category, its not that well armed, but its quite heavy and surprisingly mobile given the number of extra thrusters it has to deal with the heavy weight.

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Post by Massignifico » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:29 am

yazi88 wrote:
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Although I don't understand the reason why the Gustav Karl is that large, given that it doesn't have that much firepower, its the usual general MS weapons, but it does have more heavy armor compared to other Federation mass production units at the time.
I don't think so. The armor is Gundarium that, while an upgrade over the Jegan, it's not that durable and it's mostly used for weight reduction. Indeed the base weight is barely more than that of the Jegan (29t vs 20t) while the max weight is 20t more (60t vs 40t), that suggests more empty space, probably used for fuel.

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Post by E08 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:56 am

The Gustav Karl indeed has heavy/thick armor, that is specifically pointed out in the HGUC model kit manual and in the Gundam Narrative's official profile. I also won't say the base weight is barely more, the Gustav Karl is about 36% heavier even though it is only about 8% taller. As for the max weight difference, it is more of 60t vs 47t, a difference of 28%.

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Re: The Official Gundam Hathaway Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by Massignifico » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:14 am

My bad for the 40t instead of the 47t. Still 22 meters is huge for a MS, and you must count that the Gustav not only is taller, but bulkier and equipped with a shield, 9 tons barely cover all that.
Surely not HEAVY armor. Thicker? It doesn't seem so, it gets owned like any other federal MS.

I continue to believe that is a mostly hollow MS to get more operational time.

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