The Official Gundam Unicorn Anime Thread Mk VI

[Zeino]

All that's basically left of them is Angelo, and even his fate is ambiguous.

Well there is the fan theory going around that he goes on to become Iron Mask Roanh...

[Deacon Blues]

I'm still formulating my review of this episodes, However, I'm wondering if I'm supposed to suspend all belief about what transpired... I mean seriously? This REALLY pushed the bounds of Newtype mumbojumbo over the limits. :/

[iCards]

I agree with Blues this pushed the Newtype stuff to the brink. Still fun.

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FA Unicorn got mostly scrapped by Banshee Norn, that said Banagher did NOT want to seriously fight Riddhe. Once Banagher intercepted the Zeon Forces he cut lose with really only the leg grenades and shields left, that was cool, and all without killing. He made more use of the Shields than anything else on the FA. Also, I believe this was the FIRST time I have ever seen a Gundam use ALL of its vulcan ammo.

The way Angelo got knocked out was pretty funny weither it was him self or Banagher that did it.

Holding onto Laplace's Box was one big way for Syam make himself rich on the Federation's dime, until the One Year War comes out. He sent the world to Hell in a hand basket then. All over a single sentence, makes me wonder what would happen if the Declaration of Independence had a false clause in it.

The way Full Frontal ends up interpreted is a man who was literally possed by the Ghost of Char Aznable. Heck in closing even Amuro and Lalah came to convince him to "LET IT GO" after Banagher brings light back to a world of darkness. After Char "left" Full was left totally empty, for real. I was suprised that they showed scenes from JUST first Gundam and CCA instead of later series, I heard that in the novels Banagher saw to atleast Turn-A. It made it seem like that sequence was going back to the begining of the universe and not the end like Full wanted.

The last part with Gryps 2 was pretty cool. The Unicorn psychoframe bursting out like it did reminded me of three things: The crystal assimilation process in Fafner and the Gundam 00 Movie, as well as the Magic Circuts the Magus posess in the Fate/ series(Newtype "magic" anyone).

On the last note I found it funny that at the end when Banagher was RAPIDLY drifting away what got his attention was Riddhe saying he would "steal" Audrey from him. Banagher could be the strongest Newtype ever after this, but that seemed as human as you could get.

[Blazer-X]

My thoughts:

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The opening space battle is easily my highlight of this episode. That said, there are still a couple of major nitpicks with it:

1) FA Unicorn is mostly wasted fighting half-assed against Riddhe. Yes, I know that for story reasons, Banagher did not want to fight Riddhe. And yes, technically, he was still using "FA Unicorn" towards the end as he still had his three psycho-frame gatling shields. But he basically loses majority of his weapon complement fighting Riddhe. Now, I haven't read the novels, but I do know he originally went up against the Sleeves fleet going all out with FA Unicorn, so I am a bit disappointed they couldn't fit that in the OVA. More-over, there's a question of why they didn't refill his additional weapons during the short time they had after the battle. Because, they obviously managed to find time to fit another base jabber and one more shield in that time. Would have at least liked to see him use FA Unicorn for a bit against Neo Zeong, even if eventually have to eject his weapons all over again.

2) Kshatriya Repair not moving, at all. I'm not the only one who finds a problem with this, I am sure. If you are going to make her a non-moving target, at least have her try to grab onto Banshee or something. The way she did not try to resist Riddhe at all just comes across as bad writing.

Neo Zeong works here for the most part, especially in regards to giving the big bad a bigger more badass ride. And while we don't get to finish it off with double last shooting, we do have a variation of it taking out the fuel tank (right before the battle hits phase 2). That said, I am very disappointed that they fit the battle around dialogue between Minerva and Siam. Yes, it's probably important plot points (I need to watch the English version to be sure), but then it cuts away from the far more interesting battle taking place. All we get to see in our end is Neo Zeong and the two Unicorns trading a few shots before we go into double last shooting. Then Neo Zeong just goes into SRW mode and turns the whole battle into a SRW punching/karate match. Quite disappointing, considering that Neo Zeong is really more of a heavy fire-power platform.

Like I said, as far as the plot goes, I probably need to rewatch an English version. I think its overall a good ending, if a bit anticlimatic towards the end. But the room for improvement is obviously there.

[AmuroNT1]

I just wanted to remark, I'm getting some schadenfreude giggles out of the fact that 2ch is flipping its lid because in this episode they finally confirmed that Amuro and Char are dead.

[gunform1010]

Where are you guys seeing this...

[Kratos]

PSN and/or XBOX Live.

[Lord_Harlock]

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On this note, Full Frontal had interesting characterisation up this point but they botched all that by never fully explaining where he came from, who created him ect. Even if he is no longer an issue, surely his creators are still out there, ready to make another Char clone and start this all up again? Never answered, we arent expected to question anything.

Even if they did create another Full Frontal clone, it's not like they have the resources to take on the Federation again.
All that's basically left of them is Angelo, and even his fate is ambiguous.

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Actually, there is the damaged Endra that retreated from the Nahel Agrama's mega particle cannon firing. Sure some would say that it was caught in the blast from Gryps 2, but there is no visual evidence of that occurring. Only the Rewloola and a Musaka were caught in the blast that we see, and the Neo Zeong departed the Rewloola with probably only the same Musaka next to it. So, there is a damaged Endra at the least still out there with mobile suit escort.

All that's basically left of them is Angelo, and even his fate is ambiguous.

<br abp="926"><br abp="927">Well there is the fan theory going around that he goes on to become Iron Mask Roanh...

For some odd reason, I like that, and Dorel does look like Angelo a bit. However, Carrozzo is blond before he put on the mask. Though it's possible that Angelo dyed his hair blond to match the Commander's. It's an interesting theory at the least.

[Deathzealot]

What I am wondering is what happens to the Grancerieas Crew after this?

Also am I the only one whose favorite scene is that "Boarding" Bit with the two Sleeves MS and a Jegan ECOAS Type trying to get them off. /shrug

[EscapeArtist]

What I am wondering is what happens to the Grancerieas Crew after this?

Also am I the only one whose favorite scene is that "Boarding" Bit with the two Sleeves MS and a Jegan ECOAS Type trying to get them off. /shrug

You're not alone. That was my favorite scene, too. I couldn't tell if that was Conroy's unit that fended off the Sleeves, but it was awesome. Nothing quite like oldtype aces going at it.

[HellCat]

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The Newtype stuff didn't bother me, partly because we basically see Newtype Jesus in Victory (assuming that wasn't staged). It felt to me like the Newtype stuff was leaning heavily on the trippy Newtype stuff established by past works with a dash of Trailblazer (Unicorn becoming ELS Quanta and such).

The script actually seemed aware some wouldn't approve though. The Tri-Stars get that meta comment about their only scene, then Riddhe drops the comment that 'The potential for a perfect Newtype is enough, no one actually wants to see it!'

[BrentD15]

I just wanted to remark, I'm getting some schadenfreude giggles out of the fact that 2ch is flipping its lid because in this episode they finally confirmed that Amuro and Char are dead.

The death of their "fan theories" about the only thing that would make sense from them getting vaporized by the Axis Shock.


And also, I would like to take a moment of silence in memory of the sexiest ship in the Earth Sphere, the Rewloola. ;_;7

[Kratos]

Well, it's looking more and more like I'll have to wait a few weeks before seeing this subbed in English, and I don't really trust my Japanese enough to form concrete opinions on it, so a lengthy post will have to wait. Knowing Unicorn as I do, I find it really lives and dies on what is said, so even though seeing (mostly) just visuals gives me a certain impression, I'm not really willing to let them form my opinion exclusively.

However, somebody above said that it was simultaneously beautiful and disappointing, and that's the direction that I veered towards. What I caught told me that the episode follows the central themes of the series through to the end, which is the barest minimum I ask of it, and it was certainly a visual spectacle. Unicorn can, has been, and should be more than just that though, and the finale should not be the weakest episode of the series.

We'll see in a few weeks when my blu-ray arrives.

[excalibur2008]

EDIT: In lighter news, there was a joke floating around that "Char came back to laugh at himself".

Well he is enough of an asshole to do something like that.

[EscapeArtist]

I just wanted to remark, I'm getting some schadenfreude giggles out of the fact that 2ch is flipping its lid because in this episode they finally confirmed that Amuro and Char are dead.

The death of their "fan theories" about the only thing that would make sense from them getting vaporized by the Axis Shock.


And also, I would like to take a moment of silence in memory of the sexiest ship in the Earth Sphere, the Rewloola. ;_;7

That was terrible luck for the Rewloola. What are the odds that they'd be directly between the colony laser and its target?

I think the episode's intention is actually to say that Amuro & Char achieved some kind of transcendence rather than dying... But since Lalah got to the exact same place by dying, I don't think it matters at all. The effect is exactly the same.

[gunform1010]

I just wanted to remark, I'm getting some schadenfreude giggles out of the fact that 2ch is flipping its lid because in this episode they finally confirmed that Amuro and Char are dead.

The death of their "fan theories" about the only thing that would make sense from them getting vaporized by the Axis Shock.


And also, I would like to take a moment of silence in memory of the sexiest ship in the Earth Sphere, the Rewloola. ;_;7

That was terrible luck for the Rewloola. What are the odds that they'd be directly between the colony laser and its target?

I think the episode's intention is actually to say that Amuro & Char achieved some kind of transcendence rather than dying... But since Lalah got to the exact same place by dying, I don't think it matters at all. The effect is exactly the same.

I saw the pic of Char and Lalah. But what about Amuro? I would love a snap of him. Unless of course, he didn't appear proper.

[Saber]

I saw the pic of Char and Lalah. But what about Amuro? I would love a snap of him. Unless of course, he didn't appear proper.

Spoiler

Amuro doesn't show up physically. However, once Banagher leaves to protect Industrial 7, the camera pans to the wreckage of the Sinanju, monoeye flickering and the cockpit floating through space. Amuro's voice rings out. "Are you sure about this?" ("Mou ii no ka?"). Char's voice replies "Yes. Let's leave the rest to them." That is followed by a blue energy silouette of a swan emerging from the cockpit, two other energies beside it, flying off into the distance with Lalah's laugh echoing.

[gunform1010]

I saw the pic of Char and Lalah. But what about Amuro? I would love a snap of him. Unless of course, he didn't appear proper.

Spoiler

Amuro doesn't show up physically. However, once Banagher leaves to protect Industrial 7, the camera pans to the wreckage of the Sinanju, monoeye flickering and the cockpit floating through space. Amuro's voice rings out. "Are you sure about this?" ("Mou ii no ka?"). Char's voice replies "Yes. Let's leave the rest to them." That is followed by a blue energy silouette of a swan emerging from the cockpit, two other energies beside it, flying off into the distance with Lalah's laugh echoing.

You're saying that

Spoiler

Amuro and Char FINALLY got along. Jeez. Took a lifetime and the afterlife...

[gunform1010]

But does Lalah speak, ever?

[Ferrus_Manus]

But does Lalah speak, ever?

Spoiler

Yes, she talks to FF