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Mecha and Mufflers

Post by doghunter1 » Fri May 19, 2017 7:36 am

For mecha with wheels for long-distance travel, are mufflers are a necessity? Refer to the Gundam Leopard from After War Gundam X and the Knightmare Frames of the Code Geass franchise having wheels for long-distance travel.

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Re: Mecha and Mufflers

Post by Seto Kaiba » Sun May 21, 2017 7:25 pm

doghunter1 wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 7:36 am
For mecha with wheels for long-distance travel, are mufflers are a necessity? Refer to the Gundam Leopard from After War Gundam X and the Knightmare Frames of the Code Geass franchise having wheels for long-distance travel.
... a muffler has nothing whatsoever to do with having wheels.

Literally the only thing a muffler is for is to reduce the noise produced by an internal combustion engine's exhaust pressure. It works on pretty much the same principles as a suppressor (commonly, if erroneously, referred to as a "silencer") for firearms. If the mecha in question isn't operating on an internal combustion engine, there really is no reason for it to have a muffler because there won't be a combustion exhaust stream.

The GT-9600 Gundam Leopard from After War Gundam X is, as far as I'm aware, using an ultracompact fusion reactor for power and every Knightmare Frame we see in Code Geass save one (YF6-X7K/E Ganymede, which used external power) had a Core Luminous engine powered by a sakuradite-based energy filler which is some kind of either battery or fuel cell. Neither would need any kind of muffler, as both are almost certainly using their far more exotic power systems to run electric motors to drive their wheels. (You wouldn't find a muffler on a purely electric car though, either.)
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Re: Mecha and Mufflers

Post by Areku » Sun May 21, 2017 10:05 pm

Perhaps Leopard could use a muffler as an elaborate and hilariously ineffective means to reduce the noise of the hot gases produced by its weapons.

Other than that, see Kaiba's post.

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Re: Mecha and Mufflers

Post by Arsarcana » Mon May 22, 2017 8:04 pm

On the off-chance that doghunter meant some kind of sound suppression system for the wheels as opposed to exhaust, well... same response really: There's no point. Even the smallest mecha I can think of with that kind of propulsion (Armored Troopers) are about four meters tall and weigh six tons or more. You're not going to hide the presence of something that large and heavy even if the wheels make no sound when spinning freely. In actual motion they're going to make noise due to friction and in the process of moving that four meter/six ton machine debris will be kicked up which will also make noise.

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Re: Mecha and Mufflers

Post by Seto Kaiba » Mon May 22, 2017 9:03 pm

Arsarcana wrote:
Mon May 22, 2017 8:04 pm
On the off-chance that doghunter meant some kind of sound suppression system for the wheels as opposed to exhaust, well... same response really: There's no point. Even the smallest mecha I can think of with that kind of propulsion (Armored Troopers) are about four meters tall and weigh six tons or more. You're not going to hide the presence of something that large and heavy even if the wheels make no sound when spinning freely. In actual motion they're going to make noise due to friction and in the process of moving that four meter/six ton machine debris will be kicked up which will also make noise.
When you consider that, despite being made of materials that must have the density of packing foam, your average wheeled giant robot is going to have a significantly greater ground pressure than the average car... so the noise the wheels make is going to be pretty substantial as they bite into the ground, pavement, etc.
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Re: Mecha and Mufflers

Post by Arsarcana » Mon May 22, 2017 9:45 pm

Yep. Hence the 'noise due to friction' comment.

But now that I've got Votoms and automobiles both in my head at once, a question that's been bothering me for some time: The Berserga SSS-X 'Testarossa'. Why is it not painted red? Missed opportunity there...

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Re: Mecha and Mufflers

Post by JEFFPIATT » Tue May 23, 2017 8:57 am

the3 only ms in the History of gundam to have a muffler would be the MSER-04 Anf From gundam 00 and it's older version the MSJ-04 Fanton both Diesel powered MS http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MSJ-04_Fanton

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