Found these weapons from the VF-19 and VF-22 VF Master Files. Can anyone well-versed in Macross describe the following:
HMM-111CS
SPP-8
LPP-12
ALP-125
What is the difference between the AGM-118 and the AGM-122?
What is the difference between the weapon pallet and the weapon container of the VF-22?
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Translated information on these weapons is still scarce. I only have a few notes, but I'll post the info I have so far.
HMM-111CS are long range missiles
SPP-8 a self-propelled mass-driver weapon system
LLP-12 is a type of beam weapon
I'll try to grab some more information for you.
HMM-111CS are long range missiles
SPP-8 a self-propelled mass-driver weapon system
LLP-12 is a type of beam weapon
I'll try to grab some more information for you.
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Re: Macross armament questions
I haven't really dug into Variable Fighter Master File: VF-22 Sturmvogel II in depth yet (it's not been a priority for me or Mr March due to it being rather light on trivia), but here's the brief version from what I've got out of the VF-19 Master File... I'll try to tackle the VF-22 items in the evening.
The SPP-8 propelled mass driver pod is a missile (of sorts) that, instead of a warhead, basically has a tiny, 8-barrel railgun instead of an explosive warhead. It maneuvers in close like a more conventional missile, then unloads a shotgun-like blast of high-velocity projectiles to destroy its target. It's got 100 armor-piercing projectiles stored in its body.
That's the "new" high-maneuver missile first seen/mentioned in Macross Plus (and first shown in use by the target drones simulating attacks on the YF-21. There's not really a lot said about it... mostly that it's basically a replacement for the AMM-1 Arrow family of multipurpose missiles, and that the CS variant means it's a "cruise + stealth" missile (literally how it's written) in the medium-to-long range category.hitokirigarou wrote:Found these weapons from the VF-19 and VF-22 VF Master Files. Can anyone well-versed in Macross describe the following:
HMM-111CS
This is a fun one... basically a funnel missile, when you think about it.hitokirigarou wrote:SPP-8
The SPP-8 propelled mass driver pod is a missile (of sorts) that, instead of a warhead, basically has a tiny, 8-barrel railgun instead of an explosive warhead. It maneuvers in close like a more conventional missile, then unloads a shotgun-like blast of high-velocity projectiles to destroy its target. It's got 100 armor-piercing projectiles stored in its body.
Same story as above, but with a twist... this time, instead of a mass driver, it's got a high-output laser cannon! Its full name is the LPP-12 propelled laser pod.hitokirigarou wrote:LPP-12
I'll come back to these.hitokirigarou wrote:ALP-125
What is the difference between the AGM-118 and the AGM-122?
Not sure what you mean here?hitokirigarou wrote:What is the difference between the weapon pallet and the weapon container of the VF-22?
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Thanks for the replies.
I found the terms on page 87 of the VF master file.Seto Kaiba wrote:Not sure what you mean here?
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Ah, yeah... I see what you mean.hitokirigarou wrote:I found the terms on page 87 of the VF master file.Seto Kaiba wrote:Not sure what you mean here?
Returning to where I left off... from a quick once-over of the Variable Fighter Master File: VF-22 Sturmvogel II's weapons section, the ALP-125 Laser Piercing Pod appears to be a bigger, nastier version of the LPP-12 intended for anti-warship use.
("Bigger, nastier, for use against ships" seems to be a bit of a recurring theme here with the new weapons.)
The difference between the AGM-118 and AGM-122 cruise missiles appears to be in guidance systems (with the former using the same FLASH-LADAR technology used in the military grade optical sensors on the VF-19 and VF-22) and a larger warhead on the latter... which, again, looks to be designed for anti-warship use.
Lookin' at it, it seems like the Master File take on the VF-22 is presenting the internal gun pod storage first seen in Macross 7 as an optional (and removable) ordinance container for the GV-17L so it can be stored internally instead of hanging on the underside of the airframe for improved stealthiness.hitokirigarou wrote:What is the difference between the weapon pallet and the weapon container of the VF-22?
If stealth is not essential, they can just mount the gunpods directly to the fuselage or use those spaces for extra pylons. (This is almost certainly a nod to the F-22 Raptor, which has a similar armament-stealth tradeoff.)
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Thanks again!
Oh, I missed the ASM-91 from the VF-22 master file. I'm assuming it's based on the HMM-111CS and is intended for anti-warship use?
Oh, I missed the ASM-91 from the VF-22 master file. I'm assuming it's based on the HMM-111CS and is intended for anti-warship use?
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Pretty much... the title kind of says it all: "ASM-91 Stealth Anti-Ship Missile".hitokirigarou wrote:Thanks again!
Oh, I missed the ASM-91 from the VF-22 master file. I'm assuming it's based on the HMM-111CS and is intended for anti-warship use?
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