The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by balofo » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:50 pm

CloudFF7 wrote:Nice seeing the 3-tube missile pods, on the Zaku's shoulder shield instead of the legs. Few other works like Gundam Unicorn(Geara Zulu) and Gundam Build Fighters(Zaku Tank) have shown this configuration. Upon closer inspection I noticed that at least one of the Black Tri-Stars High Mobility Zaku's uses this setup, since they cant mount them on their bulky legs, this allows the High Mobilty Zaku's to use them.
Actually those are spare ammo for the bazooka

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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by CloudFF7 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:56 pm

oops my mistake, although mounting the missile pods on the High Mobility Zaku II's shoulder shield is still a good idea.

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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by nickh46 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:24 pm

I always wonder. Those Bazookas with the 3-tube reloads, were those supposed to be nukes?

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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by Deathzealot » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:30 am

So I wasn't wrong when I called the Lepanto UC's answer to the Drake Class then? Granted the Lepanto is a bit more heavily armed then the Drake but still.

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Post by balofo » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:30 pm

Yamane did the Guntank, all the aircraft before the advent of MS, armored vehicles, civilian vehicles and some ships.

Next we will know what Akitaka did

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Post by Gelgoog Jager » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:03 pm

Well, the animated version decided to use Conscon's ship:

http://www.gundam.info/uploads/image/20 ... -75638.jpg
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gun ... 0614133408

The characteristics of this version are: triple turrets for the guns on top of the ship aiming to the front and rear respectively, double turrets for the guns on the sides right below the bridge and single turrets for the side guns on the engine block aiming to the rear. It also seems to have 8 machine gun turrets and 8 missile launchers. However, my biggest concern is the catapult doors: the central section of the anime version seems to be fixed, with makes me think that the doors are supposed to open in a similar fashion to the Tivvay's:

http://www.gundamuniverse.it/immagini%2 ... /MS110.jpg

One other detail that caught my attention was the lack of the 10 regular-sized misile launchers on the basic Musai (16 after the MS Igloo retcon, which was passed on to Unicorn's version of the Musai Kai):

http://www.gundam.info/uploads/image/20 ... -10030.jpg

It only has the two single large-sized missile launchers (the Gundam novels identify the particular missiles fired from these as TAM missiles). On the other hand, Origin's Musai Kai do includes at least 3 regular-sized missile launchers:

http://www.gundam.info/uploads/image/20 ... -51299.jpg

I do suspect that those small but long rectangular openings might be for small missile launchers. IIRC, in the original TV series and movies, some Musais do were shown firing missiles at odd angles seemingly acting as anti-air defenses. They even resemble similar openings on the same spots on the Musai Final Production Type:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gun ... 0314175032

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Post by balofo » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:54 pm

Lineart time:

Guntank:
http://i.imgur.com/xpNybv9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cSyNKPF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mB3KVAx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PXJWqKy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9lvXbfv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LXfxFvr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AL3b4yz.jpg

MS-06S:
http://i.imgur.com/vG4vv5M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/It7nOlS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yeq4kx1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ev6L3fN.jpg

MS-05:
http://i.imgur.com/hRDxYeo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bINueL2.jpg

MS-06R-1A(Ortega, Mash):
http://i.imgur.com/Oh8SrDd.jpg

Armored Vehicle:
http://i.imgur.com/4YiMROo.jpg

Ocean Cargo ship:
http://i.imgur.com/kjtWj19.jpg

Armored Bus:
http://i.imgur.com/2XVUU1c.jpg

Type 61 MBT:
http://i.imgur.com/IWwGaQw.jpg

Lepanto Class:
http://i.imgur.com/3kDPK2D.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8sdVUNh.jpg

Salamis Class:
http://i.imgur.com/cyx9akQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DXq8oWt.jpg

-Chibe Class:
http://i.imgur.com/cR5c2Sf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/btuo5ur.jpg

-Musai ''Valkyrie'':
http://i.imgur.com/8QmGvdB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vOkJJxw.jpg

-Musai ''Iwo Jima''
http://i.imgur.com/aEqE3he.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fRLx0Y9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kIXgqZj.jpg

-Magellan Class:
http://i.imgur.com/Ojx5TDy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6kU6FKk.jpg

-Columbus Class:
http://i.imgur.com/3HWS5eK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Z80xFB1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qJnqEzL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zsf1G0j.jpg

-Saberfish:
http://i.imgur.com/VVKUdY1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gIozkOh.jpg

Life is so much easier when they leave the mech designer signature on the lineart sheets!

What each mech designer did for OVA 1:
-Katoki: All Zakus, including cockpit and weapons
-Yamane: Guntank(including details and cockpit), Armored Bus, Armored Vehicle, Type 61 MBT, Chibe
-Akitaka: Salamis, Magellan, Lepanto, both Musais

That leaves the Ocean Cargo ship, Saberfish and Columbus with no clear ownership. Beecraft is also credited for mechanical design but none of these fit his style

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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by BrentD15 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:01 am

What the heck did you do to that first Saberfish pic?

Also, it's "Chivvay". :P
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Post by bilbros » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:56 pm

Nice batch of lineart...
Interestingly, one of the depicted Columbus classes modified into an aircarrier is named Shark Bay, a unit which - as far as I recall - was never mentioned before.


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Post by Deacon Blues » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:41 pm

Huh... they changed part of the verniers on the front of the Columbus... 0_o Looks like it still retains the landing gear though too...

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Post by balofo » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:16 am

Nothing interesting the MS-06S manual besides the Bazooka using A2 type ammo and the mention that the C and F type Zaku IIs only have 1 vulcan or none on the chest(trying to make sense of the manga depiction).

No weight data at all.

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Post by balofo » Wed May 13, 2015 10:19 pm

Origin MSV line announced: MSD

http://www.gundam-the-origin.net/msd/

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Post by BrentD15 » Thu May 14, 2015 8:19 am

Cool!
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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by RyuseiDateSRX » Fri May 15, 2015 10:14 am

balofo wrote:Origin MSV line announced: MSD

http://www.gundam-the-origin.net/msd/
Wow, those Prototype Goufs look awesome! Are they gonna be in The Origin anime?

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Post by Erisie » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:33 pm

RyuseiDateSRX wrote:Wow, those Prototype Goufs look awesome! Are they gonna be in The Origin anime?
Doesn't seem like it. The HG manual (01/02/03) mentions that the existence of the Prototype Gouf was discovered (hence the name) as part of a research project undertaken by Anaheim Electronics in U.C.0082 to learn about technologies used by rival companies like Zeonic previous to their acquisition by AE. It is based upon interviews with engineers, documents and video footage.

Another thing that surprises me: apparently, the next MSV is going to be MS-03 (silhouette matches the one on the official website). However, that shape doesn't really look like the Okawara design. While the right arm seems to retain the modular forearm, the shoulders and legs don't look like it. More than anything, the wide lower legs remind me a lot more to the Zaku II RD-4, the Dom testbed that Aina piloted in the first episode of The 08th MS Team.

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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by nickh46 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:24 am

Quick question, if anyone knew....

In light of the Dozle's customized, uber-super-light cruiser Valkyrie, of which a model just got announced via the Cosmo Fleet series (which means they've been hyping it up), WTF ever happened to it?

Also, were there any confirmed Chivvay cruiser names, other then Kycilia's Purple Widow,and Conscon's Red Viscount?

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Post by Kuruni » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:27 am

Question.

Is there any different between FF-3F and the good old FF-3/FF-S3? (other than visual, that is)
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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by Erisie » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:01 pm

The events in The Origin (and MSD) change Mark's development timeline quite a lot. For starters, the initial deployment date of the Zaku II High Mobility Type gets moved way back, from June to January. It would also mean that it never was a competitor against the Dom, but a complement for the standard Zaku line, developed in tandem with the baseline unit.

This might serve to explain the flowchart in the MSD site (I added the Prototype Dom done by Katoki for his Zeonography line, for reference). Also, we can use Mark's theory that MS-03's design --with the wide bell-bottoms-- might be the common ancestor for the Zaku and Dom models.

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Re: The Official Gundam The Origin Mecha Thread Mk I

Post by Deacon Blues » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:33 pm

There's an interesting little flow chart on the official website now:

http://www.gundam-the-origin.net/msd/images/flow.jpg

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