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Post by Amion » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:13 am

Or maybe the whole thing is a giant joke and we skip to Heero waking up after his first attempt to blow up the Wing and him rubbing his head and going, "Wow, that almost felt real there for a second."

So that scene when Trowa asks what it's like to self-detonate, and Heero says "it hurts like hell", you'll understand the true meaning behind those words. :P
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Post by Wingnut » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:09 am

Amion wrote:Or maybe the whole thing is a giant joke and we skip to Heero waking up after his first attempt to blow up the Wing and him rubbing his head and going, "Wow, that almost felt real there for a second."

So that scene when Trowa asks what it's like to self-detonate, and Heero says "it hurts like hell", you'll understand the true meaning behind those words. :P
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Post by balofo » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:49 pm

Last month's FT chapter full summary, part 1: https://i.imgur.com/jHL3c0V.jpg

-Dekim's forces consisted of a flagship, 5 destroyers, 10 MS transport ships and 2 aircraft. He started Operation Sagitta to weaken the Alliance's moon fighting power and to attack Bulge 5 days later.
-2 Sagittarius class lunar land ships(Pholus and Chiron) were patrolling from Mare Tranquillitatis to Mare Seranitatis. The rebel destroyers releases 200 tons of depth charges at them.
-The Pholus and Chiron managed to destroy the depth charges with anti-air fire but the explosions generated a lot of dust. After this the 100 MS Aquila were launched and then the captain machine Prometheus landed awkwardly on the moon.
-The Aquilas opened fire together with the Prometheus firing from the rear with its cross gatling machineguns and large homing missiles. Then Dekim's son fired the chest and shoulder missiles, emptying all his ammo. The Pholus and Chiron deployed each 50 Leos but since the smoke was still strong some fell to the Aquila's twin gatlings. Since the Leos were mostly equipped with bazookas they were easy prey to the Aquila's beam saber when passing the smoke.
-Dekim decided to retreat after the enemy suffered 50% losses, it was an overwhelming victory. The lunar battleships returned to the base heavily damaged and Septem anticipated the rebel prisoners execution because of the attack.

-Duo heard someone singing Hey Diddle Diddle, he thought it was Hudie but when he opened the Devil's cockpit it was Meilan instead. Duo teases her about having a lovely side but the conversation changed to her father in Bulge. More chitchat until Hudie informs that the prisoners are going to be executed early.

-Septem and Treize arrive at the Tranquillitatis base. Treize tries to dissuade Septem from executing the prisoners saying this would start a war but General Clarence signs the orders. Treize goes to patrol the base and meets Cordelia again, she hands him intel on the rebels. Treize asks her to give him the names of the dead in battle.

-Solak under Treize's orders lead 5 Griefs to guard the southwest. 10 Leo V Nemean had gone to investigate Mare Nectaris but they didn't answer Solak request to return to base. He then went to their location and found all 10 Leos with their cockpits pierced by a beam shot. He then ordered his troops to leave because a sniper was in the area
-It was Beta Heero sniping from the mountains with a camouflaged Wing using the Buster Rifle in a lower output mode. He watched Solak retreat when Dr. J contacted him asking if he had let Alpha escape, Beta denies and J doesn't blame him.

-The rebels hold an emergency meeting in their flagship, a video is shown from the AC 186 attack on Bulge. They doubt they can destroy the Bulge Cannon but Quinze says it has been done by the Proto Zero before and since the Prometheus has more firepower than it it should be possible to disable the cannon. Dekim's son is hesitant about the attack and meets Trowa in the hangar, he asks about Prometheus maximum range which Trowa says is 4,5km but with low accuracy. Since this is a dangerous mission Trowa asks to pilot it instead of Dekim's son.

-Inside the large rebel transport ship Artemis pilots Scheherazade while Zechs and Erv use Schwarz Griefs. They also have 50 Leo V Nemean. Erv mentions that the Specials are in the lunar base so Zechs said they shouldn't hesitate. Their forces are then deployed.

-Meilan heard Artemis deployed so they have their camouflaged ship head to the base too. Broden Diez from BOP manga is going in the same direction with 8 Space Aries to support Solak's retreat. Duo's ship manages to pass Broden's troop without being detected.

-When Solak arrives at Tranquillitatis he sees a MS which he mistakes for a blue Grief. It's actually the Tallgeese Zhilong equipped with the 4 Guardians equipment. Wufei rushes the Griefs using the high output propeller Suzaku and disable 2 with the solid sword Byakko. A Grief attacks with a beam saber but Wufei blocks the attack with the super hard Genbu shield and counters with the Byakko. Wufei then takes the folding beam naginata Seiryu from the Genbu shield and combines it with the Byakko to form a double edged spear. Wufei spins the spear and defeats the 2 remaining Griefs while sparing the pilots but he didn't feel happy with this victory.
-Minutes later Broden troops arrive and Wufei introduces himself before attacking them. The Space Aries fire missiles together to no avail then Wufei uses the Suzaku booster to reach the Aries. He slices 4 Aries with a single movement of the combined spear and shoots the beam gun from Seiryu at the fifth Aries, Broden then orders the retreat and says he will not forget Wufei while giving his name to him. Because of the extreme acceleration Wufei vomits blood.

-Artemis troops attack the northeast, Erv uses a Dobergun and Zechs dual wields beam sabers. 100 Leos appear but they manage to enter the base to diverge attention to save the prisoners.

-The Alliance base is in chaos, they order every troop to the northeast and Septem makes the 2 Saggitarius class ships deploy too. Treize disagrees with the plan when Noin informs him, he doesn't want the Bulge Cannon to be fired. As Treize is about to board his custom Grief Cordelia asks him to let her fight by his side, Treize says a lady shouldn't do such things. Cordelia says because she's a lady she must do this, Treize smiles and lets her pilot a MS.

*Part 2 soon

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Post by Deathzealot » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:27 am

The heck!?!? Lunar Landships!?!?!

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Post by Amion » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:02 pm

Where did it say Lunar Landships? I was too busy trying to make sense of the rushed plot threads. Reminds me of my own work when I was rush things. Who's idea was it to create all this meaningless backstory anyway? Another of Sumisawa's "voices"?:P

And oddly enough, aside from the rushed nature of the story, it actually became mysteriously coherent for no reason. Doubtless this isn't going to last. For all the right reasons this time.
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Post by meer campbell » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:01 pm

Lunar Landships have been around since the very beginning of the novel. Way back when the first Lunar War was told. Suzaku better not be a damn Damselfly clone. All around the chapter is pretty nice. Really rushed obviously. Seems they grew tired of Sumizawa.

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Post by balofo » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:26 am

Last month's FT chapter full summary, part 2:

-Trowa in Prometheus leads the 100 Aquilas towards Bulge. His fighting style aims to not use all the ammo at once. Trowa disables the Bulge Cannon at close range and mentions he doesn't like the cross gatling because it reminds him of Middie Une and her crucifix transmitter from Episode Zero. He leaves the cross gatling equipped with a time bomb and deals heavy damage to Bulge making it unable to target the lunar surface, helping the rebels. Later an older Trowa regrets destroying the cross gatling while rebuilding the Prometheus.

-Meilan and her sister pilot the Devil while Duo follows in a vehicle behind after infiltrating the base. Duo finds Lyaoia but he wants to die. Duo drags him and other 4 prisoners to escape.

-The rebel fighting force acting as decoy is reduced to 30 Nemean, Artemis observes Treize in a white Grief and Cordelia in a purple Chimera fighting skillfully. She is informed of the prisoners rescue, her Sheherazade is damaged from the long battle. Zechs and Erv ask to be left behind so they defend the retreating troops, Artemis accepts.

-Broden's Space Aries troops spot Duo and the prisoners vehicle, Devil comes to help them. Meilan disables the Devil's stealth system so the enemies can see it. Broden orders his 2 soldiers to retreat but they disregard the order and attack the vehicle. In the ensuing fight Meilan destroys the 2 Space Aries with missiles but Hudie is killed by a beam rifle shot that penetrated the glass cockpit.

-Zechs and Erv have to fight 200 Alliance MS but Treize demands a duel which is accepted. Everyone watches in awe as Treize and Zechs duel, Treize is said to be better at fencing while Zechs is better at MS piloting.

-Duo after boarding the spacecraft with the prisoners goes to personally stop the out of control Devil by entering the cockpit. Meilan accepts her sister death after blaming herself and inherits her will as a rebel.

-Zechs was tired and his beam saber output was falling, Treize took this importunity to cut his black Grief arms. Zechs asks to be killed but Treize refuses and asks him to return to OZ which he does with Erv. Cordelia felt even more admiration for Treize after this, her piloting skills were praised and she joined the Specials too. Treize decides to call her Lady Une and she gives him the name of the dead soldiers in that battle.

-Hudie is given burial in a crater, Meilan and Liayoa say nothing. Master O and Wufei arrive at the scene, Wufei says that Devil is an arrogant name and Warlock would fit the MS better.

-Black Alpha and Proto Zero had been recovered earlier, he and Quatre discuss the meaning of war in a resource sattelite. Alpha said he destroyed the Gundanium deposit on ZERO's request, Quatre then asks what it is, Alpha responds it's like the Heart of Outer Space. Alpha says he doesn't want the Proto Zero anymore and that Quatre should pilot or dismantle it. Zayed appears and orders the Proto Zero and the other frames to be dismantled and abandoned with the resource satellite MO-IV because he believes they are the source of war. Suddenly a shuttle departs, piloting it Black Alpha whose whereabouts were unknown after this. He reappears in the Relena Episode Zero chapter set in AC 191.

-One day earlier the Specials launched an attack on the rebels with 100 Leo Type VI Löwe and 50 Space Aries Golden Fleece(these have similar exteriors but better performance). Some Aquilas were destroyed besides having the same performance but the pilots were inferior to the Specials. Dekim's son pilots the Prometheus(people thought it was him that damaged Bulge) thinking he would easily win but he's defeated(the loss of the cross gatling hurt), he escapes from the cockpit only to be captured and become an Alliance prisoner. The rebel fleet suffered 50% losses and the flagship could barely escape. Doktor S was afraid the Prometheus would fall on OZ's hands and regretted not installing a remote self destruct device. However it didn't happen because Warlock in flight mode came to recover the Prometheus. Duo and Meilan comment on Wufei and Meilan says he's good looking. The Warlock goes back to the crater and they learn Zhilong and the spaceship left back to L5, Duo, Meilan and Liayoa will continue to fight with the rebels. Hudie's death greatly affected Lyaoia making he lose his will to fight.

-The rebels had captured the Chiron and Pholus and wanted to use the underground base to repair the gundanium MS. On the bridge Artemis and Quinze discussed the future rebellion mentioning Zechs as their leader, however Lyaoia escapes with the Prometheus/Warlock/Sheherazade and Quinze goes in pursuit. Then Dr. J enters in contact to warn the ships that he had a sniper placed nearby and that he would shoot anyone there. They had no time to escape since Beta destroyed both bridges killing Artemis. Dr. J tells him that he had attacked allies, Beta says those were Alliance ships then Dr. J congratulates Beta on having his revenge(Artemis' attack on Bulge had caused Aoi and Seis Clark deaths in 186). Beta says that had nothing to do with him.

-Lyaoia then reaches MO-IV and hands the MS to Zayed but he's killed by Quinze which also triggers an explosion in the satellite. Quinze then orders to take Zayed too but his transport is hit by Quatre piloting Proto Zero, Zayed berates Quatre for his actions. MO-IV is then fitted with an engine and moved to the L4 colonies carrying the 4 frames dismantled.

-Some time after Dekim still continues to attack the Allliance on the moon, the brass reunites and Lady Une says to end this they should execute Dekim's son. Septem disagrees with this and Une exposes his connections with Dekim, General Clarence orders Septem's prison. Relena's adoptive father Twelve Darlian participates in releasing the prisoners resulting in a armistice signed at Bulge by Dekim and Clarence putting an end to the 2nd Lunar War.

All these Leo and Aries variants but no lineart hurts...

The only remaing chapters from Episode Zero are Relena's in 191 and Quatre's in 192. Maybe there's still some flashback to go before the end.

**Confirmation on the last FT chapter being published in this month's Gundam Ace, more info in the next days.

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Post by meer campbell » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:49 pm

Awww, Artemis died. I liked her. Heero getting his revenge is nice though.
Alpha being the Heero Relena sees in Episode Zero is great. The last chapter needs to be as long as this if not longer. The novel has set up a whole lot but for some reason I feel like we are going to get a rushed ending with a lot of the build up discarded and nothing else. But that would defeat the purpose of not revealing the MS designs for so long. I don't know what to think. Especially since they are still introducing new suits this late in the game.

I can say one thing this novel did right, it gave Wing a lot of aces that used custom grunts. If only for the future of Wing in games I want some type of animation. I need new stuff. I'm tired of the same old same old in games. Wing's cast would explode in G Gen and SRW. In fact, Wing could get its own game with this expanded timeline in the Battle series like Battle Universe or Seed Battle Destiny.

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Post by Amion » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:45 pm

I don't know, I think FT's existance couldn't be atoned for by simply adding those designs to the games. I don't play them, but even with my biased I think most agree FT needs to quietly go to the grave that's been earnestly waiting for it since before it began.
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Post by Kuruni » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:55 pm

meer campbell wrote:In fact, Wing could get its own game with this expanded timeline in the Battle series like Battle Universe or Seed Battle Destiny.
If they made game based on FT, it's likely to be visual novel more than anything else... :|
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Post by Mimeblade » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:05 pm

There's always Gundam Breaker. :)

Just pretend you're a "Gundam Pilot" (the big scary definition of one).

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Post by balofo » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:01 am

Final chapter spoilers(still pending confirmation on some info):
-Heero asks Relena to marry her in a letter, she agrees--->confirmed
-Wufei will help Vingt build a new OZ
-Alpha was working behind the scenes in politics and meets Lady Une
-Duo becomes the president

EDIT: more info, 22 pages chapter

http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/a081fa4egw ... 0xc4eh.jpg

-Last Dwarf is Golden, anti-MD effect(upgraded Tallgeese Heaven effect)
-Hilde has not filled the divorce papers yet
-Marimeia is married already and discovered she's a Leia Barton clone. There are many clones in the Earth Sphere
-Battles(unfortunately they're short because of the rushed ending):
a)Epyon White(Wufei) VS Vingt in Cerberus(Serpent's successor)
b)Epyon White(Wufei) VS Virgos
c)Tallgesse Heaven(Zechs) VS Virgos
d)King of Spades(Milu) and Sheherazade(Catherine) VS Virgos
e)Sheherazade(Catherine, using Noin image tracer) VS Old Type Mars Suit(Stella, using Zechs image tracer)
f)Queen of Hearts(Naina) and Warlock Fenrir(Duo Jr.) VS Virgos
g)Prometheus VS Virgos
h)Snow White(Heero) VS Epyon(Holo Zechs)
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Post by Dark Duel » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:36 pm

Marimeia is married already and discovered she's a Leia Barton clone.
That may be literally the first thing I've seen come out of FT that actually makes sense, given some of Dekim's lines in EW and his callous disregard for the supposed daughter of Treize.
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Post by balofo » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:32 am

Correction: The MS Vingt piloted was actually a Scorpio successor.

-While Wufei attacked Vulkanus, Catherine/Quatre/Trowa went to the Janus condenser system to explode it in case they can't stop PPP. The plan was to cause an EMP to stop every electronic device on Mars, including ZERO and PPP.
-The trio then takes the remote control for the 3 Cerberus machines and manage to get Holo Zechs to give them the PPP password.
-Relena is sentenced to death and shot by Heero(it was actually a hologram, the real Relena was hiding)
-At the same time of the Relena trial, real Zechs attacks Babel with his children.
-Final battle is 52 suit themed Mars Suits+Tallgeese Heaven+Prometheus+Sheherazade+Warlock VS Epyon+500 Virgo IV
-Heero appears to battle Holo Zechs and the Snow White's cloak is completely torn, it resembles Proto Zero.
-The Battle is decided when the golden dwarf is used stopping all MDs and even Babel.
-Beta Heero now is called Adin Lowe Junior
-Zechs went to live with his family as a farmer in Mars
-Duo was elected Mars president, Alpha is his aide

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Post by Mimeblade » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:13 pm

THERE'S AN ARTBOOK!?!?

Oh boy oh boy... can't wait to see!

Also, seems like a decent ending despite the crazy stuff that happened. Still don't quite understand the reasoning behind Wufei wanting to rebuild OZ with Vingt... unless it's a Preventer-based organization.

Also, Zechs as a Farmer... fanart will eventually ensue. Any mention of him getting his family back together, or is that in the epilogue?

Oh yes, and I'd love to see how Relena deals with TWO Heeros as once.

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Post by balofo » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:16 am

Final chapter full summary, part 1:
-Relena says she will abandon the Peacecraft name to Heero. Noin says Zechs has recovered. They reach Babel
-Spaceport Aries on Mars, Lady Une has arrived from Earth and is greeted by Duo. She's the chief of staff for president Dorothy, Black Alpha now a middle aged man around his 40s(with some grey hair) came with her. Earth is in a economic crisis. Lady Une proposes a Mars Reconstruction plan and Alpha asks Duo to join him in politics. Alpha brought a cat with him and says the Heart of Outerspace is with them.
-Marimeia discovered she was a clone of Leia Barton in AC 204 around the same time Duo came to Mars. Sally created Kathy from her mother's DNA and raised her as a daughter. Lady was worried about Odin Lowe Jr. who was cloned around the same time as Marimeia and searched for him but it was difficult due to the public registration system. Preventers cracked down on unregistered people but Mars was still full of them and this excessive monitoring could lead to a dictatorship after peace had been achieved. Sally's Preventer codename was Water, Wufei's was Cloud and he was sent to Mars to prevent conflict, succeeding.
-In AC 216 Dorothy decided to run for president, around the same time the satellite fell on Lanagrin causing millions of deaths. Sally died when a mob attacked Dorothy's vehicle in the L2 Colony. Preventer strongly repressed the revolt and was becoming a rogue faction. During the process of registering the arrested Lady finally found Alpha looking like a homeless person. Alpha wanted to be free and Lady respected his wish so he started working in politics and became moderate.
-Vulkanus after the events of EW was sent again towards the sun but the Nonneheim Conzern redirected it to Mars in a 10 years voyage and began producing Virgo IV and Mars Suits. Vulkanus can be secretely moved because of the sun's radiation and it finally settled in a elliptic orbit between Phobos and Deimos. Janus was set as a solar prism mirror coated with liquid metal near the moons so finding Vulkanus can only be done by visual observation because of the strong EM field.
-MC 0016(AC 210) was the Mars declaration of independece, Dixneuf was elected because he blackmailed the Earth with PPP and Vulkanus.
-Vingt ordered three OZ-20MSX-D Cerberus to attack Wufei. The variable Mars Suit Cerberus retains the Scorpio appearance but it's painted in black, it was considered a perfect machine for base defense so no changes were made even internally. The 3 Cerberus are operated remotely by Vingt through a ZERO cockpit. Wufei disables his ZERO and flies towards Vulkanus.
-Janus was set in MC 0011 to warm the Mars climate and make the algae reproduce faster. In MC 0012 it was already possible to breath the Mars air, it also lowered Mars surface flare storms. Mars magnetic field was very low until MO-VII was dropped on it activating the core and generating an EM field in MC 0003.
-Grand Chariot docked at Janus, Trowa managed to arrive there using visuals only. Quatre and Katherine had set the explosives inside it, their plan was for it fall on Mars and create an EMP stoppping everything from citizen registration data to ZERO and holograms. PPP would also be stopped for a martian day so Relena could then be killed without triggering PPP. But this would also kill innocent people resulting in a hard decision for Relena. The trio then goes towards Vulkanus.
-Around Vulkanus, Epyon White and the 3 Cerberus were fighting in MA form, Wufei was just evading their attacks since their PDs were too strong. Wufei was thinking about Treize and fighting his brother Vingt. Meanwhile Vingt couldn't win even with Zero so he contemplated sending some of the 150 Virgo IVs he had in Vulkanus. Wufei was fighting without Zero causing Vingt's Zero to delay its forecasts, but Vingt let his ego talk and refused to use the Virgo IVs. Wufei tactics is to repeatedly start and shutoff ZERO, he learned this from his fights with Holo Zechs. Vingt contacts Wufei to congratulate him but Wufei calls him a coward unlike Treize. Wufei asks him how many people have died for him leaving Vingt speechless. Wufei finally counterattacks and says Vingt is fighting only for revenge while Treize fought with love. Grand Chariot arrives and Vingt couldn't predict their approach so he orders the Virgo IVs to deploy. However the trio uses the password from BOP to stop and board the 3 Cerberus, they manage to enter Vulkanus with Epyon White.
-Relena is judged aboard Babel while it's broadcast around Mars. Relena still defends total pacifism while Holo Zechs says peace and freedom cannot coexist so he needs a strong army. Relena is sentenced to death, Heero then goes to her with a pistol and a pen. The pen has the switch to destroy Janus, but before she can decide what to do Babel is attacked by Mars Federal Forces.

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Post by meer campbell » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:20 pm

Have they seriously not revealed the covers to the final volumes yet?

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Post by balofo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:38 am

Vol 12 cover: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81DSD%2BYiaTL.jpg

-Top is the flashback Snow White(Proto Zero). Just a recolor
-Bottom is the MC Snow White. A white version of the GOL Wing Zero redesign but with new shoulders and the wing feathers connected by nanomachines.

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Post by meer campbell » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:07 am

Actually really nice. Obviously made with frame re-usual in mind. I expected Snow White to be Vol 13. Can't image what gets that cover now. So what's going to happen with these designs? It's incredibly late to be revealing them and it seems like such a waste. Too much care seems to have went into it to have it just disappear.

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Post by balofo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:15 am

meer campbell wrote:Actually really nice. Obviously made with frame re-usual in mind. I expected Snow White to be Vol 13. Can't image what gets that cover now. So what's going to happen with these designs? It's incredibly late to be revealing them and it seems like such a waste. Too much care seems to have went into it to have it just disappear.
vol 13 cover is just Relena and Heero...

This is probably the last mecha image we're going to see for FT.

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