Dark Duel wrote:Honestly, I'd prefer an F91 RP as well, but I'm game with a V RP as well, for the same reasons - it's something I've never done before, it's a change of setting and pace. As for the Formula series, I honestly think that even though they are 30-plus years old by the time V rolls around, odds are they aren't as far behind technologically relative to the newer machines as the time gap would seem to indicate, given that apart from some rather weird stuff BESPA did with their units and the general prevalence of the Core Block System, there doesn't seem to have been much substantial technological progress in the intervening time period. And even the Victory's CBS is merely a refinement of much older technology.
MS Technology has progressed a bit compared to 30 years ago though not all of it is noticeable or flashy.
Beam Shields are common place now showing up in one form or another on just about every suit, when 30 years ago only a few units had them and Minvosky based devices have been miniaturized like the Victory Gundam's "Minovsky Flight" which allows it to keep hovering in mid-air at any altitude, allowing it to dedicate all thrust from its rockets and verniers to maneuvering.
There is a different in performance between newer and suits produced 30 years ago, as seen by the Modified Heavyguns used by Macedonia which were practically swept aside by Zanscare's new Gedlev. However I believe the Formula and even the Silhouette Formula Project models have escaped this to a degree.
So older suits like the F-71 and the like are still able to compete with Zanscare's machines (at least their starting ones) even though their lack of beam shields makes their defenses much poorer then the likes of the Jamesgun or Javelin. More high performance models like the F-91 and F-97E would still be genuine threats, though they'd eventually be out preformed by newer models.
I'll say that there are both advantages and disadvantages to using older suits from the Formula series. They suffer in some areas when compared to newer suits, but excel in others. So it'll be up to players and pilots to decide what to put their faith in.
Dark Duel wrote:
As for the F-series, even if we discount the F97s, the F91 seems to have at least had a decent-size production run, so it's not altogether too far fetched that it might still be around in the 150s, 30 years later - the Jegan, introduced in 0089-0090, was still in service into the 120s(similar timeframe), and comparatively it was even more outclassed by newer machines than the F-series would be. But maybe that's my personal bias talking. I just want a chance to mess with the F91.
I agree and understand your need to play with an F91
. I believe there are still plenty of Formula units kicking around in the Federation. Though the Heavygun was phased out in favor of the Jamesgun I'm certain there are older suits still in use, though there's probably only a handful of the F-91's and the F-97E's left since they were expensive to make and certainly haven't gotten cheaper to maintain after 30 something years.
Dark Duel wrote:One thing does, however, intrigue me, and that is the near-total absence of true bona fide VMS. I'm watching V while we're discussing this, and with the sole exception so far of the Tomliat, they all seem to use the same multi-module setup a la ZZ Gundam, which I always found to be unnecessarily complicated - though it has its advantages in some situations.
Actually there's a good reason why a lot of suits have a modular set up. By having the suit be modular it makes it very easy to repair the suit and get it back into the field as a damaged module can be swapped out for a working one with relative ease. On top of that having a modular suit increases pilot survivability as they can use the separate modules of their suit in clever ways or outright eject damaged parts of their suit to make a quick, unburdened escape.
Just look at the Victory Gundam. It's modular system gives it frightening flexibility on the battlefield and allows it to swap working modules with other damaged Victory Types to create working suits out of damaged ones.
The mechanisms and systems needed for transformation and modular function have been refined and significantly simplified since the days of the Second Neo Zeon war. They're so simple now they can be utilized in mass production mobile suits with relative ease and to great effect at that.
I believe the lack of traditional Variable Mobile Suits comes from the advantage and utility people see in a modular system. A plain VMS unit would be one solid unit, having the complexity of a transforming unit without the ease of repair of a modular suit.
The only advantage a non-modular VMS has over a modular one is that they're easier to use. After all the two 'pure' mass produced VMS units in Victory Gundam are the Tomliat and Domuttlia were put into production because most pilots didn't have the piloting skill necessary to take full advantage of the Zolo.
Though the Abigor was also a 'pure' VMS suit it was made in limited numbers.
Dark Duel wrote:
The other thing I've noticed - though I'm not very far into the series - is that the panoramic monitor of the 0080s-0120s seems to have fallen out of favor.
But this is of course incidental to this discussion
Actually that's completely untrue. A lot if not most mobile suits have panoramic cockpits. The only reason the cockpits of suits like the Victory Gundam and other transformable models do not appear panoramic is because it needed to retain a certain shape for the core fighter.
However even these cockpits have an excellent range of view, pilots can even look down through sections of the 'floor'. So most of the time even if they're not panoramic they're at least pseudo panoramic.